From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pB9BoeSK010525 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:50:40 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIBAJn14U7RVdc2kGdsb2JhbABDqnAIIgEBAQEJCQ0HFAQhgXIBAQEEEgIkCAEbEgoBAQMMBgULAwoJBBIPCQMCAQIBEREBBQEcBg0BBQIBARAHB6FACotkgmuETz2IcQIFDItmBJRwhUuBNYZxPYN6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,325,1320620400"; d="scan'208";a="122736885" Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com ([209.85.215.54]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 09 Dec 2011 12:50:34 +0100 Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so851814lah.27 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 03:50:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LbOTNM7eh55pd+CjKcSmAkXRcPL2JHUdxUz/ZvRMFSs=; b=PdPbqSPfuBC/OBcXnic3PkkclqhUilHcxh8O16sGLkPDnmcnqdyUYSmI3vS3KFFq6J tQBqG8Yc6XyBxhUtoUk+Kyi8pllhNGqeN/XujJ/dXq1EMIwAw+oy9yE4bcNlIBG8T8g8 P+Nbfk2rbMBfXZaI2q8k7XcEbVkyUBz+d/lOo= Received: by 10.152.135.195 with SMTP id pu3mr4573670lab.17.1323431433904; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 03:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.93.11.91] (sauternes.inria.fr. [128.93.11.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jb5sm7422612lab.15.2011.12.09.03.50.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 03:50:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE1F605.1060903@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:50:29 +0100 From: Jonathan Protzenko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0a1) Gecko/20111209 Thunderbird/11.0a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefano Zacchiroli CC: caml-list@inria.fr References: <55531934-37A5-4CC5-AB67-20CE4CCE8269@googlemail.com> <1323427075.32238.91.camel@arrakis> <20111209111759.GB2594@upsilon.cc> In-Reply-To: <20111209111759.GB2594@upsilon.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Just for the record, caml@inria.fr also happens to be list where the members of the Caml Consortium discuss their issues. There's potentially private/sensitive information in there, and it's not always clear what relates to the consortium member's interests, and what is more about language design. So having a third list just to discuss language design issues is not as easy as it seems. Cheers, jonathan On 12/09/2011 12:17 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 12:03:30PM +0100, Gabriel Scherer wrote: >> when discussion programming language matters, there is usually an >> extraordinary amount of bike-shedding > >> I would love, for example, a kind of read-only mode where we hear >> about the discussion, without adding noise to it > Well, *if* this is the problem, then the solutions to it are well known > and adopted by other communities that maintain programming languages: > just add a "core-dev" mailing list, where only list members could post, > and someone who moderates subscription requests. Such a think will also > help defining who the core team are and give some sort of public reward > to who makes into it. Given that (as discussed in this threader) there > already OCaml committers who are not affiliated to INRIA, that would > also dispel the feeling that OCaml is an INRIA pet. > > ( Now probably Benedikt will probably want to kill both me and Gabriel > for thread hijack, *again* :-)) >