From: Damien Doligez <damien.doligez@inria.fr>
To: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Where's my non-classical shared memory concurrency technology?
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:29:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EDC5A3B-DFD2-47EA-9C22-F0B355D7BBC7@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4833D7E8.8060502@doc.ic.ac.uk>
On 2008-05-21, at 10:06, Martin Berger wrote:
> Here I disagree. Shared memory concurrency is a specific form
> of message passing: Writing to a memory cell is in fact sending
> a message to that cell carrying two items, the new value and a
> return channel that is used to inform the writer that sending
> has succeeded, and likewise for reading.
This is completely wrong. A few machines have a simple model like
that, but they were all built in the last century. Nowadays, writing
to memory is more like broadcasting a message and having no idea when
it will arrive at each destination. And if you write to another piece
of memory, you don't know in what order the updates will become
visible to a given processor.
You are neglecting a very important parameter, which is called the
"memory model" of your multiprocessor.
-- Damien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-26 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-18 8:39 Berke Durak
2008-05-18 16:35 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-19 11:45 ` [Caml-list] " Martin Berger
2008-05-19 12:24 ` Berke Durak
2008-05-19 21:47 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-19 22:24 ` Berke Durak
2008-05-19 22:37 ` Raoul Duke
2008-05-20 0:04 ` Pierre-Evariste Dagand
2008-05-20 21:27 ` David Teller
2008-05-21 7:52 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21 8:06 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-19 14:09 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-05-19 16:30 ` Richard Jones
2008-05-19 18:26 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-20 7:40 ` Ulf Wiger (TN/EAB)
2008-05-21 8:18 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21 8:06 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21 13:50 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-05-26 15:29 ` Damien Doligez [this message]
2008-05-26 16:08 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-27 9:34 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-28 11:18 ` Damien Doligez
2008-05-28 12:16 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-28 17:41 ` Martin Berger
2008-05-29 12:02 ` Frédéric Gava
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