From: Lucas Dixon <ldixon@inf.ed.ac.uk>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficient OCaml multicore -- roadmap?
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:36:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DA51A28.1060709@inf.ed.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D8BD02D.1010505@inria.fr>
On 24/03/2011 19:13, Fabrice Le Fessant wrote:
> On 03/24/2011 02:45 PM, Alexy Khrabrov wrote:
>>> Where does the OCaml team stand on the multicore issues? A year
>>> or so ago, when there was a prototype parallel GC implementation,
>>> IIRC, Xavier said it has to be done right. So what are the
>>> official plans and the status of integrating what volunteers had
>>> done?
>>>
>>> WIth Scala having a robust actors model and AKKA kernel, and
>>> Clojure built around efficient shared memory concurrency with
>>> agents and references and STM, and Haskell also really parallel,
>>> OCaml is lacking behind. Furthermore, F# builds on strongly
>>> parallel .NET, overcoming granddaddy. With multicores common
>>> even in laptops and iPads, we need an efficient multicore OCaml!
>>> Due to the model different from Haskell or Scala and Clojure, now
>>> all on github, OCaml is both more stable and also is slower to
>>> advance -- what do folks think about this situation? How do you
>>> do shared memory parallelism now?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Alexy
>>>
The PolyML implementation of SML has had a multi-core runtime, without
slowing down single-threaded programs for a few years now. It also has a
concurrent garbage collector. The main problem currently seems to be
that a lot of garbage gets produced, and memory access speeds end up
being the main bottle-neck. But we do see 4-5x speed-up on 8 core
machines for large real-world applications (in SML, our real world means
a big formal proof development, or graph rewriting at the moment... but
there's more fun stuff possible: http://kidkarolis.github.com/PolyChrome/)
Anyway, I suspect you'll run into some of the same issues as PolyML
encountered; there's a paper or two by David Matthews on this stuff;
(here's the first one I found:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1708058&dl=ACM) and of course
there is the source code too:
http://polyml.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/polyml/
Good luck with the OCaml version; it's been wanted for a long time! :)
best,
lucas
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2011-03-24 23:13 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 0:23 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2011-03-25 9:55 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
2011-03-25 11:44 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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2011-03-25 10:23 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 12:07 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-16 12:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 10:51 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 12:25 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 12:58 ` Hugo Ferreira
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2011-03-25 13:10 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 13:41 ` Dario Teixeira
2011-03-30 18:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 15:44 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 18:24 ` Martin Jambon
2011-03-25 19:19 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-26 9:11 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-26 10:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-03-30 16:56 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 19:24 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-04-20 21:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-19 9:57 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-19 10:05 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-19 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 7:59 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 12:30 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 13:22 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 14:00 ` Edgar Friendly
2011-04-19 22:49 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 17:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 19:23 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:05 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-20 23:00 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-21 7:48 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-21 8:35 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-23 17:32 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-21 9:09 ` Alain Frisch
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2011-04-21 19:53 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
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2011-04-22 8:06 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-22 9:11 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-23 10:17 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 13:47 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 17:39 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 20:18 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 21:18 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-24 0:33 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-28 14:42 ` orbitz
2011-04-23 19:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-22 9:44 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2011-04-21 10:09 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-23 17:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-23 17:05 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:30 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 23:33 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 20:27 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-19 22:47 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-20 9:25 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 18:45 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-03-30 17:00 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-13 3:36 ` Lucas Dixon [this message]
2011-04-13 13:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-13 13:09 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 23:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-04-16 13:54 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-24 13:44 Alexy Khrabrov
2011-03-24 14:57 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:03 ` Joel Reymont
2011-03-24 15:28 ` Guillaume Yziquel
2011-03-24 15:48 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:38 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 19:49 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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