From: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>
To: David Allsopp <dra-news@metastack.com>
Cc: 'Jacques Garrigue' <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>,
caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Private types
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:31:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <490CAE8A.8020408@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6788D960DAEA460EABA915DEA52D5CA2@countertenor>
David Allsopp wrote:
> Without the full coercion for x you'll get a type error because the type
> checker infers that the type of the [if] expression is [t] from the [then]
> branch and then fails to unify [> `B of int ] with [t] unless the type of
> [x] is first coerced to [> t ]. If the compiler were to try (x : t : [> t ])
> in all those instances I think that would render polymorphic variants pretty
> unusable ... the type checker needs to know that you meant to do that or
> everything will unify!
>
Okay, you claim we shouldn't automatically open polymorphic variants. I
don't see why auto->ing polymorphic types is really a problem. If the
later code (receiving the returned value) can't handle the [> ] type,
that type error will stop things (although it won't point out where the
[> ] came from). This seems one case where the compiler can easily DWIM
the correct result.
>> Would it be particularly difficult to, in the cases where type [x] is
>> found but type [y] is expected, to try a (foo : x :> y) cast?
>
> +1! With reference my previous comment that "the type checker needs to know
> if you meant that", there's still the option of using fully abstract types
> if you wanted to avoid this kind of automatic coercion and have, say,
> positive integers totally distinct from all integers without an explicit
> cast.
>
Actually, I do see the use of two kinds of derived types:
type positive = private int ( auto-coerced to int )
type category_id = new int (not auto-coerced to int - math not allowed)
I assume there's some efficiency benefit to exposing the underlying type
of category_id, if not then abstract types will quite suffice.
> All said, I do see Jacques point of wanting to keep coercion and type
> inference totally separate... though perhaps if coercions were only tried
> during unification if at least one of the types in question is private that
> would maintain a certain level of predictability about when they're used
> automatically?
>
>
> David
>
I'm happy moving down this slope of the compiler doing more of the work.
Hopefully it's slippery, so it'll end up doing lots of work for me.
E.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-01 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-30 20:18 David Allsopp
2008-10-30 20:33 ` [Caml-list] " Daniel Bünzli
2008-10-30 21:54 ` David Allsopp
2008-10-31 0:08 ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-10-31 14:05 ` Dario Teixeira
2008-11-01 9:52 ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-11-01 1:52 ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 8:19 ` David Allsopp
2008-11-01 19:31 ` Edgar Friendly [this message]
2008-11-01 20:18 ` David Allsopp
2008-11-02 14:53 ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 10:00 ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-11-01 19:41 ` Edgar Friendly
2008-11-01 13:01 ` Rémi Vanicat
2008-11-01 13:30 ` [Caml-list] " Edgar Friendly
2008-10-30 21:47 ` [Caml-list] " Jérémie Dimino
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-01 19:51 [Caml-list] Reading a large text file Alain.Frisch
2004-05-01 20:40 ` skaller
2004-05-01 21:11 ` [Caml-list] Private types skaller
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