From: Vlad Skvortsov <vss@73rus.com>
To: Olivier Andrieu <oandrieu@nerim.net>
Cc: Michael Ekstrand <michael+ocaml@elehack.net>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: [OSR] Ports-like package management system
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:53:27 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47A0D5B7.2030103@73rus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95513600801301145o4a5d4096x7492655c3d05ca8c@mail.gmail.com>
Olivier Andrieu wrote:
>> I think that it's somewhat strange to incorporate the source for all
>> packages into one massive VCS, and it looks like that's what's been
>> proposed.
>>
>> Metadata references tarballs.
>>
>
> Having metadata point to the upstream VCS isn't necessarily difficult,
> lots of build systems support that.
> It can be as simple as using the right URI: http:// ftp:// for
> tarballs, svn://, hg:// git://, etc. for a VCS.
> The user doesn't need to know how to operate the VCS, the build system
> does this for him.
>
...meaning that the user has to install *all* possible VCSs on *all*
machines where an application is to be built? Looks like a maintenance
nightmare to me.
>> I don't see a
>> whole lot of merit for hooking into upstream VCS for the general case,
>> as most users will probably want to use released tarballs of
>> everything except the few modules they're working on.
>>
>
> Speaking as the author of a caml binding library that has no published
> tarball, I don't see a lot of merit for preventing access to those VCS
> either :)
> A revision id or tag on a repository is as good as a tarball for
> referencing a precise state of some software component.
>
This is about introducing yet another concept into the package
management system, which doesn't simplify that at all.
I think the system needs to use the least common denominator as a basic
transport if we want it to be widely adopted. Which is, I believe,
HTTP/FTP in today's world.
--
Vlad Skvortsov, vss@73rus.com, http://vss.73rus.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-30 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-29 10:56 Berke Durak
2008-01-29 11:12 ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-01-29 13:11 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-29 14:04 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 17:35 ` Berke Durak
2008-01-29 18:02 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 18:10 ` Paul Pelzl
2008-01-29 22:26 ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-01-30 1:55 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 22:46 ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-01-29 13:47 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-29 14:04 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 16:00 ` Alain Frisch
2008-01-30 6:58 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-30 8:56 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 17:56 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-29 18:17 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 19:13 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 8:49 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 11:52 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-29 18:47 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2008-01-30 9:06 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 9:39 ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-01-30 9:53 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 10:50 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 11:54 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 13:58 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 14:08 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 11:15 ` Berke Durak
2008-01-30 11:47 ` Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 13:55 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 13:54 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 14:24 ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-01-30 14:35 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 19:48 ` [Caml-list] " Bünzli Daniel
2008-01-30 18:12 ` Vlad Skvortsov
2008-01-30 16:32 ` Michael Ekstrand
2008-01-30 16:44 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 18:03 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 19:45 ` Olivier Andrieu
2008-01-30 19:53 ` Vlad Skvortsov [this message]
2008-01-30 10:45 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 9:51 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 10:18 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 10:43 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 12:00 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 13:25 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 14:06 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-30 12:37 ` Pietro Abate
2008-01-30 13:26 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-01-30 14:07 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-30 13:37 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-01-30 15:12 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-31 9:02 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-01 15:03 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-02-03 20:21 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-04 3:40 ` Matthew Hannigan
2008-02-04 18:42 ` Nathaniel Gray
2008-01-30 17:42 ` David Allsopp
2008-01-30 14:13 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 20:22 ` [Caml-list] " Bünzli Daniel
2008-02-08 22:24 ` N. Owen Gunden
2008-01-30 15:15 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 12:37 ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-02-13 8:45 ` David Teller
2008-02-13 10:02 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 10:48 ` [Caml-list] " Berke Durak
2008-02-13 13:51 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 14:10 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2008-02-13 14:22 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 17:57 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2008-02-15 8:13 ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15 9:47 ` Berke Durak
2008-02-15 10:24 ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15 10:59 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-02-15 15:45 ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-02-15 13:35 ` Ralph Douglass
2008-02-15 14:08 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2008-02-13 12:13 ` David Teller
2008-02-13 13:48 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 13:58 ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-02-13 14:20 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-02-13 14:28 ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=47A0D5B7.2030103@73rus.com \
--to=vss@73rus.com \
--cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
--cc=michael+ocaml@elehack.net \
--cc=oandrieu@nerim.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox