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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@janestcapital.com>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Cc: yminsky@gmail.com, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [OSR] OCaml Standard Recommandation Process
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:23:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <479DE545.9050306@janestcapital.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801281204.00689.jon@ffconsultancy.com>

Jon Harrop wrote:

>There are also many features that I would like to steal from other languages:
>
>. The IDisposable interface from .NET and F#'s "use" bindings.
>  
>
Is there a reason that Gc.finalise doesn't work?

>and some more involved ones like operator overloading.
>
>  
>
I *hate* operator overloading.  My experience in C++ is for every time 
this feature is used legitimately (i.e. to implement complex numbers or 
whatever), it's abused 10 times- and that's ignoring C++'s use of the 
bit shift operators << and >> for I/O, and the use of + for string 
concatentation, both of which I'd argue really should be considered 
abuses, as far as I'm concerned.  And this is ignoring the difficulty of 
type inference in the presence of overloaded operators.

The best way to handle this IMHO is Haskell-style type classes.  Which 
solves the whole type inference problem, and rules most of what I 
consider abuses of operator overloading (for example, if you have a '+' 
operator, you also have to have a '*' operator- and what is "foo" * 
"bar"?).  But this is a very non-trivial change to the language.

Just my $0.02.

Brian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-27 13:23 David Teller
2008-01-27 13:52 ` [Caml-list] " Paolo Donadeo
2008-01-27 14:24 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-27 19:07   ` David Teller
2008-01-27 21:07     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-27 21:47       ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-28 11:06         ` David Teller
2008-01-28 12:04         ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 12:31           ` David Teller
2008-01-28 14:23           ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2008-01-28 15:15             ` Loup Vaillant
2008-01-28 15:40               ` Brian Hurt
2008-01-28 19:46                 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 15:25             ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 16:06               ` Christophe TROESTLER
2008-01-28 16:20                 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-28 16:45                   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2008-01-28 16:51                     ` Olivier Andrieu
2008-01-28 19:58                       ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-29  7:51                   ` Gordon Henriksen
2008-01-28 20:49                 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 22:05                   ` Till Varoquaux
2008-01-28 23:10                     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 16:37               ` Brian Hurt
2008-01-28 17:30                 ` David Teller
2008-01-28 20:43                   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 21:12                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-28 21:39                     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-29 16:49                       ` Edgar Friendly
2008-01-30  8:52                         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 10:02                           ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 12:12                           ` Vincent Hanquez
2008-01-28 21:43                     ` [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2008-01-29  7:59                       ` Francois Pottier
2008-01-28 22:07                 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2008-01-27 14:36 ` Michaël Grünewald
2008-01-27 15:10 ` Dario Teixeira
2008-01-28 13:38   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 13:52     ` [Caml-list] " David Teller
2008-01-28  0:23 ` [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2008-01-30  9:43 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 20:25   ` [Caml-list] " blue storm
2008-01-30 20:49     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-30 20:54       ` [Caml-list] " Eric Cooper

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