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From: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>
To: Fernando Alegre <fernando@mail.alemor.org>
Cc: Martin Jambon <martin.jambon@ens-lyon.org>,
	caml-list <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>,
	Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Compiler feature - useful or not?
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:43:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473DD6CC.20108@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071116173105.GA12079@gato.physics.und.nodak.edu>

Fernando Alegre wrote:
> Even better would be to have a "parametrized finite" type. This would
> really need to be built into the compiler, as I don't think it can
> actually be emulated by either camlp4 or the C interface.
> 
> The idea is very simple: add a primitive "n finite" type to the
> language, where n is a positive integer constant.
> 
> For example:
> 
> type bit = 2 finite
> 
> type mod3 = 3 finite
> 
> Then, fill the type by coercion so that "(x :> n finite)", where both x
> and n are known to be constant at compile-time and 0 <= x < n, becomes a
> value of type "n finite".
> 
> This should be pretty straightforward to implement, and it may simplify
> code that depends on types such as "T1 | T2 | T3 | T4"
> 
> I don't know how much it would be possible to relax the constraint above
> while maintaining the typesystem sound. Does anybody whether this is
> a known problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Fernando
> 
To implement these types (as well as what I've just proposed), the
interface between the type system and the runtime will have to change.
As Jacques pointed out, a coercion, being a type-level action, cannot
generate any code, and in order to do runtime coercion to a restricted
type, you need value checks to ensure a valid value.

I hope that it won't hurt my brain too much to see what can be done to
create such a bridge between the type system and the code generator,
even if INRIA never accepts the idea into the official OCaml distribution.

If you'd like to look at how another language implemented these ideas,
look here: http://www.adapower.com/rm95/RM-3-5-4.html

E.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13 23:41 Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14  0:08 ` [Caml-list] " Yaron Minsky
2007-11-14  0:21   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14  7:58     ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 12:37       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 13:56         ` Virgile Prevosto
2007-11-14 14:35         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 16:38           ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 18:43             ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 19:19               ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  6:29               ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-15 13:26                 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-15 17:29                   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 20:28                     ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16  0:47                       ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-15 22:37                     ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-15 22:24                   ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-16  0:30                   ` Yaron Minsky
2007-11-16  1:51                     ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16  9:23                       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-16 14:17                         ` rossberg
2007-11-16 15:08                         ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:43                           ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:46                             ` Till Varoquaux
2007-11-16 17:27                             ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 17:47                               ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 17:54                                 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 18:10                                   ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:18                                     ` David Allsopp
2007-11-16 19:32                                       ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:50                                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-16 17:31                             ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 17:43                               ` Edgar Friendly [this message]
2007-11-16  0:46                   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-16  8:23                     ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  8:58                       ` Jean-Christophe Filliâtre
2007-11-16  9:13                         ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  9:48                           ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-14 16:57       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 21:04         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 22:09           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  0:17         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-11-15  6:23           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 10:53             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-11-15 13:48               ` Jacques Carette
2007-11-15 14:43                 ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-15 16:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14 16:09   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 16:20     ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-14 11:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-14 10:57   ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-14 14:37 ` Zheng Li

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