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From: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Compiler feature - useful or not?
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:23:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473BE5DD.2000000@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071115.091714.58364160.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>

Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> This syntax could be nice, but it is just syntactic sugar for
> 
> module Private_row : sig
>   type row = private int
>   val new_row : int -> row
> end = struct
>   type row = int
>   let new_row i = assert (i >= 0); i
> end
> include Private_row
> 
Funny to define a module (hiding) just to include it (un-hiding).  This
pair usually comes to a no-op, but here it doesn't.

> I'm sure camlp4 can do that.
> 
It can.  But camlp4 holds back real development of the OCaml Community
by dividing the language into incompatible splinter dialects or forcing
us to code in pure OCaml which has little sugar.

> Direct compiler support couldn't give you more:
> 
> * you cannot use a coercion to create a row: coercions are purely
>   type-level features, and cannot execute any code; we don't want to
>   change this. On the other hand coercing row to int could be made ok.
> 
Good point.  And I guess there's no better way to pack the creation
assertion with the type than a module with a constructor function...

> * the "constraint ..." part cannot appear in an interface, since
>   interfaces cannot contain expressions
> 
Having interfaces contain arbitrary expressions...  difficult.  But I
guess that we would have a 90% solution by reducing the problem from
arbitrary constraints to simple range constraints.  As long as it worked
for ints, floats and chars, ....  Still not trivial, though.

Kila la heri,
E.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-15  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13 23:41 Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14  0:08 ` [Caml-list] " Yaron Minsky
2007-11-14  0:21   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14  7:58     ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 12:37       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 13:56         ` Virgile Prevosto
2007-11-14 14:35         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 16:38           ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 18:43             ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 19:19               ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  6:29               ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-15 13:26                 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-15 17:29                   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 20:28                     ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16  0:47                       ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-15 22:37                     ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-15 22:24                   ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-16  0:30                   ` Yaron Minsky
2007-11-16  1:51                     ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16  9:23                       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-16 14:17                         ` rossberg
2007-11-16 15:08                         ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:43                           ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:46                             ` Till Varoquaux
2007-11-16 17:27                             ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 17:47                               ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 17:54                                 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 18:10                                   ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:18                                     ` David Allsopp
2007-11-16 19:32                                       ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:50                                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-16 17:31                             ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 17:43                               ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16  0:46                   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-16  8:23                     ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  8:58                       ` Jean-Christophe Filliâtre
2007-11-16  9:13                         ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  9:48                           ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-14 16:57       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 21:04         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 22:09           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  0:17         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-11-15  6:23           ` Edgar Friendly [this message]
2007-11-15 10:53             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-11-15 13:48               ` Jacques Carette
2007-11-15 14:43                 ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-15 16:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14 16:09   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 16:20     ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-14 11:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-14 10:57   ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-14 14:37 ` Zheng Li

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