From: Thomas Fischbacher <tf@functionality.de>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:01:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4683DB41.50801@functionality.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200706281543.01424.jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Jon Harrop wrote:
> I am more than happy to talk about continuations and consing but you need to
> post code that uses continuations or conses before anyone can help.
Let us look at the following example:
===>
let print_gc_info verbose =
let s = if verbose then Gc.stat() else Gc.quick_stat() in
Printf.printf
"=== GC Stats (%s) ===
minor_words: %f
promoted_words: %f
major_words: %f
minor_collections: %d
major_collections: %d
heap_words: %d
heap_chunks: %d
live_words: %d
live_blocks: %d
free_words: %d
free_blocks: %d
largest_free: %d
fragments: %d
compactions: %d
top_heap_words: %d
"
(if verbose then "verbose" else "quick")
s.Gc.minor_words
s.Gc.promoted_words
s.Gc.major_words
s.Gc.minor_collections
s.Gc.major_collections
s.Gc.heap_words
s.Gc.heap_chunks
s.Gc.live_words
s.Gc.live_blocks
s.Gc.free_words
s.Gc.free_blocks
s.Gc.largest_free
s.Gc.fragments
s.Gc.compactions
s.Gc.top_heap_words
;;
let twofuns_v1 x =
(x mod 3, x mod 7)
;;
let twofuns_v2 c x =
c (x mod 3) (x mod 7)
;;
let walk_pairs_v1 ?(target=[|0;0|]) n =
begin
target.(0) <- 0;
target.(1) <- 0;
for i=0 to n-1 do
let (f1,f2) = twofuns_v1 i in
begin
target.(0) <- target.(0) + f1;
target.(1) <- target.(1) + f2;
end
done;
target
end
;;
let walk_pairs_v2 ?(target=[|0;0|]) n =
begin
target.(0) <- 0;
target.(1) <- 0;
(let cont x y =
begin
target.(0) <- target.(0) + x;
target.(1) <- target.(1) + y;
end
in
for i=0 to n-1 do
twofuns_v2 cont i
done);
target
end
;;
let () =
let walker =
if Sys.argv.(1) = "v1"
then
let () = Printf.printf "Using variant #1\n" in
walk_pairs_v1
else
let () = Printf.printf "Using variant #2\n" in
walk_pairs_v2
in
let target=[|0;0|] in
begin
ignore(walker ~target 100000000);
Printf.printf "%d %d\n" target.(0) target.(1)
end
;;
print_gc_info true;;
<===
I get (for the non-continuation approach):
=== GC Stats (verbose) ===
minor_words: 300018751.000000
promoted_words: 65.000000
major_words: 74.000000
minor_collections: 9155
major_collections: 0
heap_words: 61440
heap_chunks: 1
live_words: 74
live_blocks: 23
free_words: 61366
free_blocks: 1
largest_free: 61366
fragments: 0
compactions: 0
top_heap_words: 61440
And using the continuation:
=== GC Stats (verbose) ===
minor_words: 447.000000
promoted_words: 0.000000
major_words: 9.000000
minor_collections: 0
major_collections: 0
heap_words: 61440
heap_chunks: 1
live_words: 9
live_blocks: 3
free_words: 61431
free_blocks: 1
largest_free: 61431
fragments: 0
compactions: 0
top_heap_words: 61440
...so the continuation-based approach can execute not using the GC
at all - neither major nor minor. Sure, the OCaml GC behaves so
nicely that it does not make a difference in terms of run-time for
this particular small example (...or is it that calling a closure
is at present so inefficient that it outweighs the benefits of not
having to cons?) - but (1) is this the same if the minor heap is
more complicated, as in a real application and (2) shouldn't there
be huge potential for optimization in the second case then?
In particular, concerning point (2), when comparing run times
with the following bit of C code, I find that both OCaml
variants are slower than the C variant by more than a factor
of 3:
===>
#include <stdio.h>
typedef void (*cfii)(int,int);
static int buf[2]={0,0};
void twofuns_cont(cfii c,int x)
{
c(x%3,x%7);
}
void incbuf(int x,int y)
{
buf[0]+=x;
buf[1]+=y;
}
int main(void)
{
int i;
for(i=0;i<100000000;i++)
{
twofuns_cont(&incbuf,i);
}
printf("%d %d\n",buf[0],buf[1]);
}
<===
>>According to your usually-screwed-up metrics...
>
>
> Time taken?
We are talking about your ray-tracer here.
For those who do not know yet, the fundamental problem with that study
of yours is that you kept on setting the *criteria* what to consider as
a permissible solution only after seeing the result, and doing so in
such a way that the outcome is the one you desired, i.e. to create the
impression OCaml were the best system around. This is not proper
scientific behaviour.
--
best regards,
Thomas Fischbacher
tf@functionality.de
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-28 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-27 12:14 Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 13:18 ` [Caml-list] " Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 13:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 14:18 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 15:09 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 15:28 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 15:38 ` Robert Fischer
2007-06-27 15:48 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 16:01 ` Robert Fischer
2007-06-27 16:01 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 18:06 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 18:31 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 19:56 ` skaller
2007-06-27 20:17 ` Jonathan Bryant
2007-06-27 22:57 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:53 ` Hash-consing (was Re: [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments) Daniel Bünzli
2007-06-30 8:19 ` [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments Pierre Etchemaïté
2007-06-27 13:55 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 15:06 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 15:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:01 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 11:32 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:42 ` Joel Reymont
2007-06-28 12:08 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 13:10 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-28 13:35 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 12:59 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 13:05 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 13:33 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 14:43 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 16:01 ` Thomas Fischbacher [this message]
2007-06-28 17:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:39 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 19:26 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-28 11:39 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 14:44 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 16:03 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 17:20 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-06-28 22:12 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 1:10 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-29 10:55 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 6:12 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-06-27 17:16 ` Book about functional design patterns Gabriel Kerneis
2007-06-27 17:48 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 19:33 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 19:30 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 19:48 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 20:04 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 20:35 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 20:55 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 20:58 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 21:18 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 21:18 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 21:34 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 22:13 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 15:18 ` [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:44 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 18:17 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:18 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 13:15 ` Bill Wood
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4683DB41.50801@functionality.de \
--to=tf@functionality.de \
--cc=caml-list@yquem.inria.fr \
--cc=jon@ffconsultancy.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox