From: Andrej Bauer <Andrej.Bauer@fmf.uni-lj.si>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] wrapping parameterized types
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 14:13:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <463B2364.9070102@fmf.uni-lj.si> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61164.84.165.181.194.1178279247.squirrel@www.ps.uni-sb.de>
rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de wrote:
> "skaller" <skaller@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 19:16 -0400, Chris King wrote:
>>> The solution is to use existential types. In a record, you can tell
>>> O'Caml that a particular function _must_ be polymorphic:
>>>
>>> type 'b mylistfun = { listfun: 'a. 'a list -> 'b }
>> I'm still confused why this is called an existential, when
>> clearly the quantification is universal.
>
> You have reason to be confused, because this is no existential type.
>
> Dirk Thierbach:
>> It's because the universal quantifier is in a "negative" position,
>> which is equivalent to an existential quantifier on the outside.
>> Just pretend they are logic formulae instead of types, and then
>>
>> (\forall a. a) -> b is equivalent to \exists a. (a -> b)
>
> Actually, no, these are not equivalent. Only the following are:
>
> (\exists a. a) -> b is equivalent to \forall a. (a -> b)
Right, and this is in accordance with the terminology. Note that Dirk
misread the precedence of operators: in ocaml
'a . 'a list -> 'b
means
'a . ('a list -> 'b)
and not ('a . 'a list) -> 'b. So everything is fine. I do agree with
skaller that it is a bit perverse to call a quantifier "existential"
when it is obviously the universal quantifier, even if it is equivalent
to a formula containing an existential.
Andrej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-04 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-03 22:31 Christopher L Conway
2007-05-03 23:16 ` [Caml-list] " Chris King
2007-05-04 1:10 ` skaller
2007-05-04 8:13 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-05-04 11:47 ` rossberg
2007-05-04 12:13 ` Andrej Bauer [this message]
2007-05-04 13:34 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-05-04 15:58 ` Christopher L Conway
2007-05-04 1:58 ` Christopher L Conway
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