From: Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com>
To: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
Cc: Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Nested module exposing type from parent?
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:06:32 -0400 [thread overview]
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Maybe I am wrong but I have the feeling that this is totally unrelated
to Anthony's question?
Could you please explain in more details how it solves the problem?
I actually tried your solution on Anthony's code but it does not solve
his problem (if I understood it well of course).
--
Vincent Aravantinos
PostDoctoral fellow, Concordia University, Hardware Verification Group
http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~vincent
Le 2 nov. 11 à 19:01, Gabriel Scherer a écrit :
> I see that you solved your problem in a way you find satisfying, but I
> would like to point out that the reason why your original code didn't
> work isn't exactly what you seem to think.
>
> When you define a submodule, the types defined before in the parent
> modules are perfectly accessible and can be referred, just as you
> would do when referring to types defined at the toplevel. You need not
> qualify the type with the outer module name (Vec.t in your example),
> as you are still *inside* this parent module.
>
> module Vec = struct
> type t = int
> module Type = struct
> type u = t
> end
> end
>
> (1 : Vec.Type.u);;
>
> The problem in your case is that you wish to give the same name to the
> type in Vec and in Vec.Type. This would lead to the following:
> ... module Type = struct type t = t end ...
>
> But this is ill-defined : it is a recursive type defined as being
> itself. The problem is that the OCaml syntax for type declarations
> always consider them recursive (for values you have "let" and "let
> rec", for types you have "type" which behaves like "type rec" with no
> opt-out way possible). This is a flaw of the OCaml syntax which is
> relatively well-known, see eg. http://ocaml.janestreet.com/?q=node/25
>
> A workaround is to define your inner type "t" in two steps, using an
> different intermediate name to break the cycle:
>
> module Vec = struct
> type t = int
> module Type = struct
> type u = t
> type t = u
> end
> end
>
> (1 : Vec.Type.t);;
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Anthony Tavener
> <anthony.tavener@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oops, I didn't do a group-reply... so in case anyone is interested
>> in what I
>> ended up with:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Nested module exposing type from parent?
>> To: Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Actually, better than I initially thought...
>> I keep this as I have them defined already, except as you said:
>> include
>> instead of open.
>> module Vec = struct
>> module Type = struct
>> type t = { x: int; y: int }
>> end
>> include Type
>> let make x y = {x;y}
>> let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>> end
>> Before, I had instead of the include:
>> type t = Type.t
>> open Type
>> Which worked, but then the type used everywhere was Vec.Type.t
>> Thanks again! Simple and effective, and I was looking in all the
>> wrong
>> places. :)
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony Tavener <anthony.tavener@gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank-you Vincent!
>>> Though this requires a home for the "source type" module, at least
>>> the
>>> types come out right in the end. Thanks!
>>> And this led me to read specifically about include to understand
>>> what it
>>> really does. :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Vincent Aravantinos
>>> <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Using "include" instead of "open" would work, ie. turning your
>>>> example
>>>> into:
>>>>
>>>> module Vec_main = struct
>>>> type t = { x: int; y: int }
>>>> let make x y = {x;y}
>>>> let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> module Vec = struct
>>>> include Vec_main
>>>> module Type = struct
>>>> include Vec_main
>>>> ...
>>>> end
>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> Then:
>>>> # let n = Vec.make 2 5;;
>>>> val n : Vec.t = {Vec.x = 2; Vec.y = 5}
>>>> # open Vec.Type;;
>>>> # let m = {x=1;y=2};;
>>>> val m : Vec.Type.t = {x = 1; y = 2}
>>>> # Vec.add m n;;
>>>> - : Vec.t = {Vec.x = 3; Vec.y = 7}
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Vincent Aravantinos - Postdoctoral Fellow, Concordia University,
>>>> Hardware
>>>> Verification Group
>>>>
>>>> On 11/02/2011 03:41 PM, Anthony Tavener wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been struggling with this occasionally...
>>>> I'm using nested modules to "open" access to select features of a
>>>> module.
>>>> My problem is I can't find a way to *expose* types in the parent
>>>> module
>>>> through such nested modules.
>>>> A simplified example of what I'm looking at:
>>>> module Vec = struct
>>>> type t = { x: int; y: int }
>>>> let make x y = {x;y}
>>>> let add a b = {x=a.x+b.x; y=a.y+b.y}
>>>> module Type =
>>>> (* something which has type t = Vec.t,
>>>> * with exposed structure when "open"ed.
>>>> * Also note that Vec is not really an
>>>> * explicit module like this; instead it
>>>> * is implemented in vec.ml *)
>>>> end
>>>> Example usage...
>>>> let n = Vec.make 2 5
>>>> open Vec.Type
>>>> let m = {x=1;y=2}
>>>> Vec.add m n
>>>>
>>>> To date, I've defined the type in the Type submodule, which is
>>>> then used
>>>> by the parent module. The unsatisfactory quality of this is that
>>>> Vec.Type.t
>>>> is the "true" type. Ideally the concrete type would live at
>>>> Vec.t, with
>>>> "open Vec.Type" bringing the fields of the type into scope.
>>>> As background, here are examples of opening different features of
>>>> the Vec
>>>> module:
>>>> let c = Vec.add a b
>>>> open Vec.Prefixed
>>>> let c = vadd a b
>>>> open Vec.Ops
>>>> let c = a +| b
>>>> open Vec.Type
>>>> let c = Vec.add a {x;y;z=0.}
>>>> Apologies if this is really beginner-list material. It's minor,
>>>> but has
>>>> been bugging me.
>>>> Thank-you for looking,
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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2011-11-02 21:14 ` Fwd: " Anthony Tavener
2011-11-02 23:01 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-11-03 0:06 ` Vincent Aravantinos [this message]
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2011-11-03 0:41 ` Martin Jambon
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