From: Matt Gushee <mgushee@havenrock.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Feeding the OCaml GUI troll
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:49:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43168841.9000302@havenrock.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d13dcfc05083101487092acd5@mail.gmail.com>
First of all, I hope the "troll" label is tongue-in-cheek. I really am
not trying to stir up argument for argument's sake. The goal is to find
a project or two that might benefit both myself and the community.
David MENTRE wrote:
> I really fear your under estimate the amount of work needed to
> accomplish such a job. And the OCaml community seems pretty fragmented
> on this GUI front.
Sounds right to me.
> 2. write a *simple* GUI front end, in OCaml, with only simple modules
> and/or simple objects. No fancy use of OCaml type system. Stay close
> to ML core. Use Labgtk2, native Win32 and MacOS X libraries to render
> the GUI. However I don't know the complexity of handling gory details,
> like encoding of strings;
I'm not sold on the idea of a "simple" GUI front end. I've tried one or
two of them, and I think they're probably good for, say, a database
application, but useless for more general apps like text editors and
drawing tools.
> 4. Use Labltk. I can't really comment on it, as I have never used it
> and can't say about its graphical behaviour or desktop integration
> (copy/paste and drag&drop);
Drag and drop would have to be added; copy/paste functionality is a
built-in feature of the Text widget and possibly some others.
> 5. drop OCaml to write GUI. Use other languages (usually C++) to make
> front-ends and use OCaml code only as backend, communicating through
> sockets or shared memory. Maybe the most viable long term solution.
That's no doubt a technically sound solution. Is it commercially viable?
I'd say that depends on your market. Large organizations are generally
comfortable with separately installed components. Small businesses,
primary and secondary schools (at least in the US), and home users are
often terrified of complex installation and configuration procedures.
They want one-step installation.
--
Matt Gushee
Englewood, CO, USA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-01 4:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-28 15:38 Does LablTk have a future? Matt Gushee
[not found] ` <aefe758210f7fa0b9846b0ea4278cf3a@rouaix.org>
2005-08-28 23:21 ` [Caml-list] " Matt Gushee
2005-08-29 22:33 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 4:39 ` Matt Gushee
2005-08-30 11:39 ` Yaron Minsky
2005-08-30 11:48 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 12:22 ` David MENTRE
2005-08-30 13:45 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 15:47 ` David MENTRE
2005-08-30 16:08 ` Jon Harrop
2005-09-01 4:25 ` Matt Gushee
2005-09-01 11:20 ` Matt Gushee
2005-09-01 11:26 ` Matt Gushee
2005-09-01 14:09 ` Chris Campbell
2005-08-30 16:21 ` Bardur Arantsson
2005-08-30 17:47 ` [Caml-list] " David Thomas
2005-08-30 18:06 ` Tyler Eaves
2005-08-30 19:01 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 22:55 ` Chris Campbell
[not found] ` <c22844d10508301553b54841b@mail.gmail.com>
2005-08-30 22:56 ` Fwd: " Chris Campbell
2005-08-30 23:04 ` Doug Kirk
2005-08-31 0:08 ` Fwd: " Jon Harrop
2005-08-31 0:31 ` Olivier Andrieu
2005-08-31 8:48 ` Feeding the OCaml GUI troll (was: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future?) David MENTRE
2005-08-31 9:06 ` Proposal a GUI from Ocamlsdl Christophe Raffalli
2005-08-31 14:39 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-09-01 19:27 ` Nathaniel Gray
2005-08-31 14:27 ` Feeding the OCaml GUI troll (was: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future?) Jon Harrop
2005-09-01 4:49 ` Matt Gushee [this message]
2005-09-01 13:15 ` [Caml-list] Re: Feeding the OCaml GUI troll skaller
2005-09-01 13:28 ` David MENTRE
2005-09-01 13:50 ` skaller
2005-09-01 14:43 ` Chris Campbell
2005-09-02 7:40 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-09-02 12:39 ` skaller
2005-09-03 10:34 ` Damien Bobillot
2005-09-03 12:30 ` skaller
2005-09-04 14:08 ` Richard Jones
2005-09-03 11:10 ` yoann padioleau
2005-09-03 11:30 ` Jonathan Roewen
2005-09-03 17:23 ` Doug Kirk
2005-09-04 14:01 ` Richard Jones
2005-09-01 19:23 ` Feeding the OCaml GUI troll (was: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future?) Nathaniel Gray
2005-09-01 4:31 ` [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future? Matt Gushee
2005-09-01 4:17 ` Matt Gushee
2005-09-01 13:25 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 7:16 ` GUI for OCaml (was: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future?) David MENTRE
2005-08-30 9:53 ` GUI for OCaml Christophe Raffalli
2005-08-30 10:28 ` [Caml-list] " David MENTRE
2005-08-30 13:04 ` Bünzli Daniel
2005-08-30 17:13 ` David Thomas
2005-08-30 11:18 ` Mark Shinwell
2005-08-30 14:22 ` Jacques Carette
2005-08-30 23:12 ` Pietro Abate
2005-08-30 14:14 ` GUI for OCaml (was: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future?) Richard Jones
2005-08-30 15:33 ` mmzeeman
2005-08-30 15:44 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 22:34 ` yoann padioleau
2005-09-01 4:58 ` Matt Gushee
2005-08-30 16:01 ` Jon Harrop
2005-08-30 16:25 ` Chris Campbell
2005-08-30 22:49 ` yoann padioleau
2005-08-30 16:03 ` Chris Campbell
2005-08-30 22:31 ` yoann padioleau
2005-08-31 8:19 ` About Lablgtk2 (was: e: GUI for OCaml) David MENTRE
2005-09-03 11:41 ` yoann padioleau
2005-08-30 17:35 ` [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future? Olivier Andrieu
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