From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD4BDF7 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:17:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j814H9cF003278 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:17:10 +0200 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16461 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:17:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mz3.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j814H5V5030516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:17:08 +0200 Received: from [216.241.35.41] (helo=[10.0.0.2]) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EAgVY-000182-Gf for caml-list@inria.fr; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:17:00 -0600 Message-ID: <431680C7.9030800@havenrock.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:17:11 -0600 From: Matt Gushee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050108) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Does LablTk have a future? References: <4311DA63.4010104@havenrock.com> <200508292333.59714.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <4313E30F.1050501@havenrock.com> <200508301248.24026.jon@ffconsultancy.com> In-Reply-To: <200508301248.24026.jon@ffconsultancy.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 431680C5.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 431680C1.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 labltk:01 labltk:01 widget:01 widget:01 ocaml:01 wrote:01 widgets:01 widgets:01 ignorant:01 opengl:01 opengl:01 toolkit:03 programming:03 perhaps:03 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 Jon Harrop wrote: >>Specific in what sense? And do you mean LablTk as a tool, or as a book >>topic? > I meant that the topic "GUI programming using lablTK" is too specific for a > book. Okay, I thought that was probably what you meant. And you're probably right. >>Ever used the Canvas or Text widgets? There's a lot going on there. > > I'm using the Text widget in a very simple way. I may have to start using the > canvas widget because I can't figure out how to do various things (e.g. a > spreadsheet). Yes, using Text for a spreadsheet is pushing the envelope quite a bit. It's certainly possible with Canvas. The other option would be to have a bunch of Text or Entry widgets laid out with the Grid geometry manager. > Yes. As OCaml gains popularity it will be commercially viable to publish > cheaper books. In the mean time, if you're interested in making money, > perhaps educational software would be better? Okay, you've got my attention. I've had vague thoughts in that direction myself, and it happens that I taught English as a Second Language for a few years before getting into geekery. What thoughts do you have about the opportunities in that field? > Incidentally, OpenGL is extremely important for us. So a GUI toolkit must be > able to handle OpenGL widgets. Indeed, this begs the question: why not do the > whole thing in OpenGL? It might be a good idea. My starting point was enlightened self-interest: I know Tk and LablTk fairly well, and I perceive that LablTk needs some help if it is to remain (become?) useful. Whereas I'm almost totally ignorant of OpenGL. It's one of the many things I think I ought to learn, but haven't found time. -- Matt Gushee Englewood, CO, USA