From: Christophe Raffalli <christophe.raffalli@univ-savoie.fr>
To: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] Are you sure the new "=" of 3.08 is good ?
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:14:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4165B1A5.9040208@univ-savoie.fr> (raw)
I spend one complete day to adapt Phox (my theorem prover) to 3.08
because the new = does not check first physical equality. Hopefully, the
backtracking ocamldebugger let me pin point the many "=" which were
looping, otherwise I would have spend a month !!!
I was assuming two things about equal:
- scan of block from left to right
- a test on adress equality on pointer before follwing the pointer
(which is now wrong in 3.08).
Then in a data type with some structure starting with an identifier
filed like
type symbol = structh { id : int; ... },
if you have the property that two structures with the same id are always
physically equal, the old "=" would never scan the structure itself.
The new "=" can dramatically change the complexity of a program using
such a structure. It can even loop if your data type are cyclic but all
cycle need to traverse a structure with the above property (in this case
the old "=" did not loop).
I imagine there are other examples where the old "=" can be much faster
than the new one.
So the comparison between both "=" gives
old "=":
- can have much better complexity of some specific data structure
- nan = nan => true
new "="
- can have a small linear speedup on some specific data structure
- nan = nan => false
Clearly for most ocaml programmer the old "=" was better.
Moreover, code relying on, nan = nan to give false are very suspicious
to me !!! If you need to debug, you have better to insert assertion
about your floats.
Finally, the IEEE norm about floating point arithmetic is not perfect
yet. For instance it makes nothing about transcendentals function (see
below) so I really do not think this norm is so good that OCaml MUST
respect it for polymorphic equality (a new better norm may appear one day).
--
Here are two small problems with the actual implementation of float:
asin 1.000001 gives nan while some floating point expression which you
can mathematically prove to be in [-1, 1] gets computed as 1 + epsilon !
so asin x should be equal to asin 1 if x > 1 (idem for -1) otherwise all
call to asin shoud do a comparison with 1 and -1
sin x with x > 10e100 gives a value which is certainly wrong since you
can not compute the modulo 2 pi for such a big number.
sin x should give nan when |x| is too big.
--
Christophe Raffalli
Université de Savoie
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next reply other threads:[~2004-10-07 21:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-07 21:14 Christophe Raffalli [this message]
2004-10-08 7:38 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-10-08 8:31 ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-08 15:10 ` Damien Doligez
2004-10-08 9:37 ` Sébastien Furic
2004-10-08 15:54 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-10-08 2:54 Harrison, John R
2004-10-08 5:49 ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-08 6:54 ` David Brown
2004-10-08 16:25 Harrison, John R
2004-10-08 16:35 Harrison, John R
2004-10-08 17:34 ` Damien Doligez
2004-10-09 8:58 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-10-09 17:56 Harrison, John R
2004-10-09 18:10 Harrison, John R
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