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From: Andreas Rossberg <rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de>
To: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Why must types be always defined at the top level?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:01:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D97122.8000909@ps.uni-sb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1087947151.29427.82.camel@pelican.wigram>

skaller wrote:
> 
>>Note that you cannot return values such that the module name escapes
>>its scope.
> 
> Which escapes me. Felix allows types to be defined
> anywhere and also allows them to escape, it creates
> no problem I'm aware of (except that you can't
> name them without resorting to the typeof() operator).

I believe the presence of syntactic names for all generative types is 
essential for the theoretical underpinnings of OCaml's type and module 
system.

> Topic ---------------------Language X ------------ Language Y
> Intermodule fun calls         Yes                       No
> Intermodule type recursion    Yes                       No
> Nest everything (excl funcs)  Yes                       No
> Nest funcs                    No                        Yes
> Full sep compil               Yes                       No
> Platform indep code           No                        Yes

How did you arrive at that table? AFAICS, the right column contains too 
many No entries (intermodule function calls, full sep compilation), 
while the left contains too many Yes entries (nest everything, or rather 
compositionality is definitely not given for C/C++, full sep compilation 
neither - considering that you have to manually share some code in 
header files).

-- 
Andreas Rossberg, rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de

Let's get rid of those possible thingies!  -- TB

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-23 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-22 22:41 Richard Jones
2004-06-22 22:53 ` Markus Mottl
2004-06-22 23:32   ` skaller
2004-06-23 12:01     ` Andreas Rossberg [this message]
2004-06-23 14:45       ` skaller
2004-06-23 16:28         ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-06-23 20:21           ` skaller
2004-06-23 20:52             ` skaller
2004-06-24 14:27               ` John Hughes
2004-06-24 16:47                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-06-24 17:30                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-06-24 17:45                 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-06-24 19:46                   ` John Hughes
2004-06-24 19:56                     ` David Brown
2004-06-24 19:57                     ` William D. Neumann
2004-06-24 20:13                       ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-06-24 23:26                     ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-25 10:20                     ` skaller
2004-06-25 11:07                       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-06-25 12:30                         ` skaller
2004-06-25 14:38                           ` [Caml-list] Thread and kernel 2.6 pb still there in CVS Christophe Raffalli
2004-06-25 16:08                             ` [Caml-list] " Marco Maggesi
2004-06-25 16:32                               ` Markus Mottl
2004-06-28 15:08                             ` [Caml-list] " Xavier Leroy
2004-06-28 18:50                               ` Benjamin Geer
2004-06-29  2:26                               ` Christophe Raffalli
     [not found]                                 ` <7AFB5F64-C944-11D8-975C-00039310CAE8@inria.fr>
     [not found]                                   ` <40E11621.3050709@univ-savoie.fr>
2004-07-05 15:14                                     ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-07-05 16:34                                       ` Xavier Leroy
2004-07-06  9:33                                         ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-08 13:51                                           ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-07-08 15:03                                             ` Xavier Leroy
2004-07-09 23:21                               ` Donald Wakefield
2004-07-10 10:56                                 ` Damien Doligez
2004-06-24 23:23                   ` [Caml-list] Why must types be always defined at the top level? Brian Hurt
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0406241813370.4202-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2004-06-26 23:08                       ` Dave Berry
2004-06-25  1:59                   ` Yaron Minsky
2004-06-24 23:08                 ` Brian Hurt

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