From: Martin Berger <martinb@dcs.qmul.ac.uk>
To: skaller@ozemail.com.au
Cc: Caml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] GC and file descriptors
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:49:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FBA4D97.9060309@dcs.qmul.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1069168323.18363.83.camel@pelican>
> What alternatives are there?
>
> One is to have exception specifications on functions,
> but that is known not to work very well. The first
> difficulty is that once you have them, they must
> become part of the type system. They then 'snowball'
> through the whole program (in the same way 'const'
> does to C programs).
but isn't this snowballing exactly what you want? you can
think of exceptions and normal function returns as well-
behaved value-passing gotos. but nobody wants to ignore
intermediate types in function chaining. so why should
only the functional but not the exception behaviour be
constraint by types? the only difference between exceptions
and function types is that
* for exceptions, the normal case is that we ignore the exception,
i.e., all we do is pass it on, without touching it.
* for functions, the normal case is to take the returned value
and do something with it.
i always wonder if problem would simply disappear with more
expressive typing systems that allow concise specification
of the normal case for exceptions -- where an piece of code is
just a conduit for exceptions -- and appropriate grouping of
exceptions, for example by subtyping.
martin
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-13 0:50 Dustin Sallings
2003-11-13 1:18 ` David Fox
2003-11-13 4:09 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-14 13:42 ` Damien Doligez
2003-11-14 14:57 ` Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-14 20:24 ` Dmitry Bely
2003-11-14 20:54 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-14 22:21 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-14 21:36 ` John J Lee
2003-11-14 21:48 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-15 1:47 ` Dmitry Bely
2003-11-15 2:25 ` Max Kirillov
2003-11-15 2:49 ` Mike Furr
2003-11-16 4:09 ` [Caml-list] Bugs from ignoring errors from close (was Re: GC and file..) Tim Freeman
2003-11-15 2:58 ` [Caml-list] GC and file descriptors David Brown
2003-11-17 14:19 ` Damien Doligez
2003-11-17 18:18 ` skaller
2003-11-14 18:35 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-15 14:16 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:56 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-11-15 17:30 ` skaller
2003-11-15 20:31 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-16 19:19 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-17 18:15 ` skaller
2003-11-17 19:26 ` Aleksey Nogin
2003-11-18 13:49 ` skaller
2003-11-18 17:51 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-18 20:17 ` Aleksey Nogin
2003-11-20 7:36 ` Florian Hars
2003-11-17 21:20 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-17 23:02 ` John J Lee
2003-11-18 12:05 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-11-18 15:19 ` skaller
2003-11-18 18:10 ` John J Lee
2003-11-18 17:55 ` skaller
2003-11-18 20:02 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-11-18 21:20 ` John J Lee
2003-11-19 12:25 ` skaller
2003-11-19 13:55 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-11-19 14:26 ` Samuel Lacas
2003-11-19 14:47 ` skaller
2003-11-18 15:28 ` skaller
2003-11-18 18:00 ` John J Lee
2003-11-18 22:28 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-18 23:07 ` John J Lee
2003-11-18 23:22 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-19 1:49 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 3:57 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-19 13:35 ` skaller
2003-11-19 13:00 ` skaller
2003-11-19 13:02 ` skaller
2003-11-19 17:36 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-20 5:14 ` skaller
2003-11-20 7:37 ` David Brown
2003-11-18 15:12 ` skaller
2003-11-18 16:49 ` Martin Berger [this message]
2003-11-18 17:46 ` skaller
2003-11-19 1:33 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 3:19 ` Design by Contract, was " Brian Hurt
2003-11-19 2:57 ` Jacques Carette
2003-11-19 13:27 ` skaller
2003-11-19 14:41 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 16:54 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-19 17:18 ` Damien Doligez
2003-11-19 21:45 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-19 23:09 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-20 0:50 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-20 9:42 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-19 18:03 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-18 18:26 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-18 19:24 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-11-18 23:49 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-19 1:36 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 2:28 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-19 3:26 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-19 11:44 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 17:29 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-20 5:17 ` skaller
2003-11-20 16:13 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-19 13:33 ` skaller
2003-11-19 17:01 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-22 2:39 ` [Caml-list] AutoMLI (Was: GC and file descriptors) Jim
2003-11-19 17:43 ` [Caml-list] GC and file descriptors Brian Hurt
2003-11-20 5:05 ` skaller
2003-11-19 1:33 ` Martin Berger
2003-11-19 2:47 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-11-18 22:23 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-19 13:00 ` skaller
2003-11-17 22:37 ` OCaml popularity [was: Re: [Caml-list] GC and file...] John J Lee
2003-11-18 1:02 ` [Caml-list] Re: GC and file descriptors Jed Davis
2003-11-13 1:19 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas George
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[not found] ` <347A7A46-1612-11D8-8F93-000393CFE6B8@spy.net>
2003-11-13 20:18 ` Mikael Brockman
[not found] <20031118232227.GA8437@swordfish>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0311182039440.5009-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2003-11-20 6:35 ` Matt Gushee
2003-11-21 16:44 ` skaller
2003-11-21 22:17 Gregory Morrisett
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