* [Caml-list] Closure & Ref
@ 2003-11-17 19:37 chris.danx
2003-11-17 21:02 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-17 21:43 ` Brian Hurt
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From: chris.danx @ 2003-11-17 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Hi,
I was toying with ocaml just now and have successfully written a
function that takes and int that produces a function that takes an int
to add to the original.
let prodAdd x =
let value = ref x in
fun y -> !value + y;;
Now I want to do a function that takes a ref to a list and returns a
function that adds items to the list and produce a function that returns
another that returns the list. How do I do that?
let prod_list_acc a =
fun x -> a := x :: !a; true;;
let return_acc a =
fun () -> !a;;
but that gives a "unit -> int list" =. How do you get a copy of the
list values?
This might seem like a crazy thing to do but I am toying with an idea
relating to a paper I read on traits. Instead of having classes at all
you can just have traits, closures and mutable values.
Cheers,
Chris
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* Re: [Caml-list] Closure & Ref
2003-11-17 19:37 [Caml-list] Closure & Ref chris.danx
@ 2003-11-17 21:02 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-17 21:48 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-17 21:43 ` Brian Hurt
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From: Dustin Sallings @ 2003-11-17 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: chris.danx; +Cc: caml-list
On Nov 17, 2003, at 11:37, chris.danx wrote:
> let prodAdd x =
> let value = ref x in
> fun y -> !value + y;;
This is very similar to
let prodAdd x y = x + y;;
The only difference is that I'm making a reference with the value of x.
# let prodAdd x = let value = ref x in fun y -> !value + y;;
val prodAdd : int -> int -> int = <fun>
# let prodAdd2 x y = x + y;;
val prodAdd2 : int -> int -> int = <fun>
# prodAdd 1 2;;
- : int = 3
# prodAdd2 1 2;;
- : int = 3
# prodAdd 1;;
- : int -> int = <fun>
# prodAdd2 1;;
- : int -> int = <fun>
> Now I want to do a function that takes a ref to a list and returns a
> function that adds items to the list and produce a function that
> returns another that returns the list. How do I do that?
>
> let prod_list_acc a =
> fun x -> a := x :: !a; true;;
>
> let return_acc a =
> fun () -> !a;;
>
> but that gives a "unit -> int list" =. How do you get a copy of the
> list values?
>
>
> This might seem like a crazy thing to do but I am toying with an idea
> relating to a paper I read on traits. Instead of having classes at
> all you can just have traits, closures and mutable values.
That's not a very functional style. It does seem to work for me with
the following syntax, though:
# let list_acc a x = a := x :: !a; ();;
val list_acc : 'a list ref -> 'a -> unit = <fun>
# let return_list a = !a;;
val return_list : 'a ref -> 'a = <fun>
# return_list a;;
- : int list = [1; 2; 3; 4; 5]
# list_acc a 6;;
- : unit = ()
# return_list a;;
- : int list = [6; 1; 2; 3; 4; 5]
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* Re: [Caml-list] Closure & Ref
2003-11-17 21:43 ` Brian Hurt
@ 2003-11-17 21:35 ` chris.danx
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From: chris.danx @ 2003-11-17 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian Hurt; +Cc: caml-list
Brian Hurt wrote:
> Since you're not setting the reference, why have one? Instead, try:
>
> let prodAdd x = fun y -> x + y
>
> But we can do it simpler than that:
>
> let prodAdd x y = x + y
>
> And use partial function application. (prodAdd 4) returns a function
> which adds 4 to whatever int parameter passed to it.
I didn't know OCaml had partial function application, thanks! I have
programmed in Haskell before, but never got seriously into it (the
things I wanted to do like IO where "advanced" in Haskell, whereas
they're basic to me. That's one reason I want to learn OCaml, it
doesn't so hard to do trivial interaction).
> This allows you to have multiple different lists being constructed
> independently. Note, the above code is actually more generic than it
> looks- I had to add an explicit type statement to make it "come out
> correct". Without the explicit type information:
>
> let make_listacc () =
> let r = ref [] in
> let acc x = r := x :: !r
> and lst () = !r
> in acc, lst
> ;;
>
> The function is both clearer than the original, and creates lists of any
> type, not just ints. If you hear me bitching about C++ and Java making
> generics "special and extraordinary", this is a classic example of what
> I'm kvetching about.
I hear you. From my previous spell in FP I really got to like the ease
of "generics" which are inconvient in C++ and a pain in Ada. GUIs and
IO was just easier.
[snip]
> If you want to access specific members of a list (other than the head), I
> wouldn't recommend using a list, but instead some other datastructure (an
> array or hash table being the obvious choices).
It was just a toy example to see if I could get that aspect of this idea
to work in OCaml. Hmm...
Thanks!
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* Re: [Caml-list] Closure & Ref
2003-11-17 19:37 [Caml-list] Closure & Ref chris.danx
2003-11-17 21:02 ` Dustin Sallings
@ 2003-11-17 21:43 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-17 21:35 ` chris.danx
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From: Brian Hurt @ 2003-11-17 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: chris.danx; +Cc: caml-list
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, chris.danx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was toying with ocaml just now and have successfully written a
> function that takes and int that produces a function that takes an int
> to add to the original.
>
> let prodAdd x =
> let value = ref x in
> fun y -> !value + y;;
Since you're not setting the reference, why have one? Instead, try:
let prodAdd x = fun y -> x + y
But we can do it simpler than that:
let prodAdd x y = x + y
And use partial function application. (prodAdd 4) returns a function
which adds 4 to whatever int parameter passed to it.
>
> Now I want to do a function that takes a ref to a list and returns a
> function that adds items to the list and produce a function that returns
> another that returns the list. How do I do that?
>
> let prod_list_acc a =
> fun x -> a := x :: !a; true;;
>
> let return_acc a =
> fun () -> !a;;
>
> but that gives a "unit -> int list" =. How do you get a copy of the
> list values?
Now you're setting the reference. But prod_list_acc and return_acc need
to share the reference.
Now, I for one, hate globals. This is the result of programming for years
in C. What I would do is write a function which returns a tuple of two
functions, and accumlator function and a current list function, like:
let make_listacc () =
let r: int list ref = ref [] in
let acc x = r := x :: !r
and lst () = !r
in acc, lst
;;
This allows you to have multiple different lists being constructed
independently. Note, the above code is actually more generic than it
looks- I had to add an explicit type statement to make it "come out
correct". Without the explicit type information:
let make_listacc () =
let r = ref [] in
let acc x = r := x :: !r
and lst () = !r
in acc, lst
;;
The function is both clearer than the original, and creates lists of any
type, not just ints. If you hear me bitching about C++ and Java making
generics "special and extraordinary", this is a classic example of what
I'm kvetching about.
You'd use make_listacc like:
let my_acc, my_list = make_listacc() in
my_acc 3;
my_acc 4;
my_acc 5;
my_list ()
;;
The above code returns [5;4;3] (note, the list is built backward!).
The most common way to access members of a list is to use what is called
"list comprehensions". Don't let the names fool you- these are just
functions that walk the list and do something on every element of the
list. Look at List.iter and List.fold_left. So let's say I want to take
a list of ints and sum them. I could simply do:
List.fold_left (fun x y -> x + y) 0 lst
Note that + is just a function, so I could just as easily have done:
List.fold_left (+) 0 lst
to do the same thing.
The second most common way to access members of a list is to write a short
recursive function. Say I wanted to know if the list contained a given
number. I might write:
let rec has_num x = function
| [] -> false
| h :: t -> if (h == x) then true else has_num x t
;;
If you want to access specific members of a list (other than the head), I
wouldn't recommend using a list, but instead some other datastructure (an
array or hash table being the obvious choices).
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Brian
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* Re: [Caml-list] Closure & Ref
2003-11-17 21:02 ` Dustin Sallings
@ 2003-11-17 21:48 ` Dustin Sallings
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From: Dustin Sallings @ 2003-11-17 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dustin Sallings; +Cc: caml-list, chris.danx
On Nov 17, 2003, at 13:02, Dustin Sallings wrote:
>> let prodAdd x =
>> let value = ref x in
>> fun y -> !value + y;;
>
> This is very similar to
>
> let prodAdd x y = x + y;;
>
> The only difference is that I'm making a reference with the value of
> x.
I don't know what happened to this sentence. It should read something
more like, ``The only difference is that you're making a reference with
the value of x unnecessarily.''
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