From: Alessandro Baretta <alex@baretta.com>
To: Pierre Weis <pierre.weis@inria.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr, Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@bononia.it>,
damien Doligez <damien.doligez@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Segmentation fault at process initialization
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:09:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F6F2CB3.9080108@baretta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200309181344.PAA12993@pauillac.inria.fr>
First of all thanks to Pierre and Stefano et al. for the
time you have take to read my post and answer me. I wish to
comment on all your replies and have taken Pierre's as an
example. This is a fairly long post: it will explain where I
have localized the bug to be and how I solved the problem.
Hopefully, it will be interesting to some.
Pierre Weis wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
>
>>Richard Jones wrote:
>>
>>>Obviously under no circumstances, but I've had it happen a few times.
>>
>>Not really. Ocaml programs are guaranteed to be segmetation fault free
>>only unless they link to C code or use the Marshal module to input data
>>structures.
>
>
> Or you use the Obj module, or you do a stack overflow on some
> architectures, or you access out of a string or array on some others.
Well, ok, I was just mentioning a couple of non-type-safe
spots. There are a couple more.
> Anyhow, if it is possible, try to compile your code with the bytecode
> compiler and use the debugger that easily find this kind of problems.
I only use bytecode because all my software strongly depends
on the Dynlink library. And, no, I'm not able to get any
useful messages out of ocamldebug because the segmentation
fault apparently occurs during the initialization of the
virtual machine included in the bytecode executable via
custom-mode compilation.
> Another simple way to localize the problem is to add a message at the
> end of each compilation unit; for instance, as last line of the
> implementation file foo.ml of module Foo, just write:
None of my debugging fprintfs get executed.
> prerr_endline "Module Foo successfully initialized.";;
>
> This way, you could normally see which module fails to initialized and
> then you could find more easily why.
Unluckily, it did not help, but I did manage to solve the
problem, and I want to share my experience with all the
gurus out there because I am interested in knowing if anyone
experienced the same issues. Here's my original setup: my
code depends on a number of libraries which are distributed
with a findlib-savvy Makefile, as well as a number of other
libraries which I have written. My own libraries are also
findlib-savvy, but one is not obliged to install them so
long as they are in a well defined position within the
source code tree. I use gnu-make and a number of makefiles,
including Markus' OcamlMakefile, to automate the compilation
process. The compilation process itself takes advantage of
ocamlfind to access the findlib packages. All this is very
straightforward.
The very strange behavior I observed originally is that the
bytecode executable would segfault immediately upon process
initialization if the executable was built from the root
directory of my source code (therby bypassing ocamlfind as
far my own libraries were concerned), but ran fine if the
same executable was build in its own leaf directory, where
my libraries are accessible only through ocamlfind.
This is the crucial point: the same ocaml code crashes with
a segfault if it is compiled from the root directory and
runs perfectly if the compilation and linking are performed
in the leaf directory with the avail of ocamlfind.
Obviously, there is some bug with the linker: and not so
much the caml linker as the C linker which generates the
custom runtime environment. Apparently, gcc's linker is very
sensitive to the options it is passed (-L and -I maybe?):
depending on the relative order of the options, as generated
by the two different makefile setups, the C linker would
generate a functional or a buggy custom runtime.
The solution I found: I excluded all findlib and makefile
magic from the linking process of the executable. The
linking command has been hard-wired into the Makefile. No
spurious -ccopt are passed to the linker. No, I no longer
get any crash, let alone segfaults. It's not ideal because
it doesn't scale well with code complexity. I'd prefer to
continue using my makefile-magic, but I'm happy to see my
Xcaml system back to work.
Alex
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-22 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-18 12:26 Alex Baretta
2003-09-18 12:52 ` Richard Jones
2003-09-18 13:21 ` Alex Baretta
2003-09-18 13:44 ` Pierre Weis
2003-09-22 17:09 ` Alessandro Baretta [this message]
2003-09-22 18:47 ` Richard Jones
2003-09-22 20:57 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-09-18 16:23 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2003-09-18 16:54 ` Damien Doligez
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