From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA12323; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:04:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12019 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:04:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au (sunny.pacific.net.au [203.25.148.40]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g3O94RP07792 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:04:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g3O94PXt011435 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:04:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from ozemail.com.au (ppp106.dyn71.pacific.net.au [202.7.71.106]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id TAA22285 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:04:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3CC67517.4070200@ozemail.com.au> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:04:23 +1000 From: John Max Skaller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2.1) Gecko/20010901 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCamlSDL References: <3CC34396.9000909@ozemail.com.au> <20020424090250.A32612@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk > > >Wellm maybe i don't understand you, but the lablgl binding already provide a >way to do OpenGL in Tk (using the togl widget) and the lablgtk bindings >provide a way to do OpenGL in gtk+ using the gtkglarea widget. > >What do you want more ? > Nothing. I want LESS. I do NOT want Tk there, nor Gtk. And for a game, not even the window manager. I have a friend committed to using OpenGL to do a game. He's NOT interested in widgets or window managers from some toolkit. He'll program the buttons to behave exactly as he want them too directly with the low level graphics interfaces. I want to implement a new kind of window manager called HWM. I can't even host it on X (except at low level) since X's idea of a WM is archaic and precisely what I'm trying to replace. So neither of us is remotely interested in hosting OpenGL inside a widget of some brain dead toolkit living inside some brain dead window manager. We want to use Open GL to REPLACE these components. Ideally, Ocaml would have an OpenGL interface with a binding which works inside the native window manager (in a window -- for testing) but which could be replaced by another binding (transparently) which took over the whole screen, either directly (for performance) or via low level primitives of the native system (X windows etc) for hosting within an existing environment. So for example, on Linux, I'd want a Mesa binding. -- John Max Skaller, mailto:skaller@ozemail.com.au snail:10/1 Toxteth Rd, Glebe, NSW 2037, Australia. voice:61-2-9660-0850 ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners