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From: John Skaller <skaller@maxtal.com.au>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+lists/caml/news/@tequila.cs.yale.edu>,
	caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: convincing management to switch to Ocaml
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:28:37 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990903172837.00970c60@mail.triode.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5lwvubixh8.fsf@tequila.cs.yale.edu>

At 15:03 31/08/99 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>Caml (like SML and Pascal and C and ...) has taken the point of view
>that begin/end entities should not be made mandatory if they are
>unambiguously unneeded.  I can only agree with that point of view:
>why should I say
>	
>	if a then (1) else (2)
>
>? 

	Why not:

	if a then q else 2 fi

>You could also try to rely on your programming environment to
>help you.  

	I do. (But I'm using Vim :-)

>> 	(fun x -> print_endline ..)
>> is ugly compared to:
>> 	begin fun x -> print_endline .. end
>
>Aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder.  

	This is very true, and a fundamental problem for publishing.
Intent is important too: what works fine on my screen is not quite
the same as what looks good on paper.

>> but the ideal would be
>> 	fun x is print_endline .. efun
>
>Plop!  Yet another reserved keyword!

	.. which is not good, I agree.

>Syntax is one of those things that you just can't get right.

	There is some truth in that, however, many would
claim that, for example, the syntax of C++ or Perl,
compared with say Python, is indeed superior.

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-06 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-07-28 14:47 STARYNKEVITCH Basile
1999-07-30  9:00 ` Markus Mottl
1999-08-13 10:32   ` John Skaller
1999-08-25  1:51     ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-25  3:50       ` John Skaller
1999-08-25  6:34         ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-26 18:36         ` Stefan Monnier
1999-08-29  6:08           ` John Skaller
1999-08-27 10:00         ` Andreas Rossberg
1999-08-28  6:24           ` John Skaller
1999-08-30 15:59             ` Sylvain BOULM'E
1999-08-31  5:50             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-28 19:51           ` Dave Mason
1999-08-30 19:05             ` Xavier Leroy
1999-08-30  8:02           ` Pierre Weis
1999-08-30 19:35             ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 17:10               ` Pierre Weis
1999-09-03  6:56                 ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 19:03               ` Stefan Monnier
1999-09-03  7:28                 ` John Skaller [this message]
1999-08-31  0:13             ` John Prevost
1999-08-31  5:19               ` John Skaller
1999-08-31  6:35                 ` John Prevost
1999-09-03  5:42                   ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 16:24           ` Gerard Huet
1999-07-30 14:42 ` John Skaller
1999-07-30 18:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
1999-07-30 21:30 ` Francois Rouaix
1999-08-12 10:36 ` Reply to: " Jens Olsson
1999-08-16 18:33   ` Chris Tilt
1999-08-12 12:15 ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-15  8:14   ` Friedman Roy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-09-07  7:24 TommyHallgren
     [not found] <John Skaller's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:19:48 +1000">

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