Re: [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh of them?

[oliver <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>]

Quoting  Markus Mottl <markus.mottl@gmail.com> (snt: 2018-11-27 18:09 +0100 CET) (rcv: 2018-11-27 18:10 +0100 CET):
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:50 AM Oliver Bandel <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm happy with OCamlMakefile.
> >
> 
> I have to say that I find it truly charming if not flattering that people
> are still using my ancient OCamlMakefile (which, btw., is now more than 20
> years old!).
[...]

Well, you use email here on the mailinglist.
It's much older than OCamlMakefile.
You still use it, even though there are a plenty of new possibilities in the web to talk about OCaml.
<iron>Maybe we should switch away from email then!</irony>

OCamlMakefile if fine for me: KISS principle.
If I would use come complex tools, I would provide a wrapping makefile to make default install easy.

Just for the record: I did not said, all the new tools are nonsense,
or would not help in certain projects.
I just asked those developers, who already worked into these tools,
to provide a way to make the build and install easy.

Especially if the sources of the project did not changed, or changed only minor,
switching to new build-/install-tools IMO does not make sense.
( -> never change a running install-prcedure nor change it's api )

But if one does this switch, providing the "make" / "make install" interface
for those, who had not the time to work into any new tool, would be easy.

By the way: I maintained ocaml-sqlite3 on AUR for Arch for a while.
At the moment I have not the time and nervs to look at dune, no matter
how good or bad it is.

So, I just disowned  the ocaml-sqlite3 package on AUR.
Maybe someone will pick it up and provide a new version. Maybe not.

The package had 45 votes, which is comparingly much.
So there seems to be a need for this.
opam is part of the official Arch packages since a while,
so one could ask, why 45 people voted for the PKGBUILD-based package
instead of switching to opam.
(And there will be more users than the 45 who voted for it, I would guess.)


> 
> Seriously, I think that every OCaml developer should switch to OPAM + Dune
> at this point.

Just because it's hype?

It's like: every technical discussion should be done via wh*tsapp, Sl*k, or foo or bar.
Email is so oldschool.

But of course people have different opinions on this.

OK, just ignore the 45 votes.

[...]
> I'm generally reluctant to jump on the
> next build tool or package manager,

Oh... so we are not far away here.

> but my expectation is that these tools
> will stay around for many years to come.

Heheh... maybe.

Ciao,
  Oliver