From: Simon Cruanes <simon.cruanes.2007@m4x.org>
To: Jaap Boender <jaapb@kerguelen.org>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh of them?
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:55:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181126225522.GY3935@church> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd9f91ef-67de-339c-00bb-2710ac12be56@kerguelen.org>
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Le Mon, 26 Nov 2018, Jaap Boender wrote:
> Bootstrapping is also a problem: I don't know if the problem has been solved
> in the meantime, but not too long ago it was impossible to package opam,
> because some of the libraries needed to build opam actually used the opam
> installer themselves. I had to write my own version of the opam installer to
> get around that particular problem.
That's a bit strange, I recall that opam's source archive contains
opam's dependencies and allows to build them using `make lib-ext` or
something like that. I don't recall having problems installing opam2 from
source.
> It's all well and good to say that 'using opam is the default', but can we
> please spare a thought for distribution editors as well? Using ocaml and
> friends with the package manager that comes with your distribution is a
> reasonable use case, I'd think.
The ecosystem has indeed been changing rapidly this year, but in a good
way, imho: a lot of people and projects have converged to using `dune`
as the build system, and opam2 as the package manager (and project
description). Once dune is packaged for a distribution, a lot of OCaml
projects should be buildable, I think.
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Simon Cruanes
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-26 10:14 Oliver Bandel
2018-11-26 16:41 ` Yawar Amin
2018-11-26 16:57 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-26 17:15 ` Yawar Amin
2018-11-26 20:33 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-26 20:47 ` Yawar Amin
2018-11-26 20:54 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-26 21:19 ` Yawar Amin
2018-11-26 21:29 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-26 22:16 ` SP
2018-11-27 5:24 ` Malcolm Matalka
2018-11-28 0:20 ` SP
2018-11-27 6:11 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-27 8:45 ` SF Markus Elfring
2018-11-28 0:04 ` SP
2018-11-27 9:27 ` SF Markus Elfring
2018-11-27 10:08 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-27 10:28 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enough " SF Markus Elfring
2018-11-27 10:34 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-27 11:05 ` Jean-Francois Monin
2018-11-27 11:00 ` Kakadu
2018-11-27 13:18 ` Malcolm Matalka
2018-11-28 1:52 ` Francois Berenger
2018-11-28 15:21 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-11-27 13:07 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh " Jean-Marc Alliot
2018-12-06 12:21 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-12-06 16:10 ` Yawar Amin
2018-12-06 20:18 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-12-07 7:31 ` Daniel Bünzli
2018-12-07 7:44 ` [Caml-list] What happened to the 'ancient' library for OCaml? Francois Berenger
2018-12-07 8:24 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-12-07 8:26 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh of them? Richard W.M. Jones
2018-12-07 9:01 ` Daniel Bünzli
2018-12-07 13:22 ` Stéphane Glondu
2018-12-08 0:58 ` Daniel Bünzli
2018-12-13 23:45 ` SP
2018-12-11 2:47 ` Francois Berenger
2018-12-07 13:12 ` Malcolm Matalka
2018-11-27 14:32 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2018-11-27 14:35 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2018-11-30 15:23 ` Louis Gesbert
2018-11-26 22:44 ` Jaap Boender
2018-11-26 22:55 ` Simon Cruanes [this message]
2018-11-27 13:29 ` Oliver Bandel
2018-11-27 13:45 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation tools - not enough " SF Markus Elfring
2018-11-27 15:06 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh " Simon Cruanes
2018-11-27 15:49 ` Oliver Bandel
2018-11-27 16:27 ` Daniel Bünzli
2018-11-27 17:46 ` Jaap Boender
2018-11-28 11:47 ` Jeremie Dimino
2018-12-01 15:12 ` [Caml-list] How to start with the curren toolset? Hendrik Boom
2018-12-01 16:56 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-12-02 15:27 ` Daniel Bünzli
2018-12-02 23:36 ` David Allsopp
2018-12-03 2:19 ` [Caml-list] let's give a try at opam-bundle Francois Berenger
2018-12-02 17:44 ` [Caml-list] confusing message in opam installer Hendrik Boom
2018-12-02 17:50 ` Julia Lawall
2018-12-05 19:07 ` Raja Boujbel - OCamlPro
2018-11-27 16:27 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation tools - not enough of them? SF Markus Elfring
2018-11-27 17:09 ` [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh " Markus Mottl
2018-11-30 12:41 ` [Caml-list] <DKIM> " Vu Ngoc San
2018-12-07 15:19 ` [Caml-list] " oliver
2018-11-27 16:52 ` Hendrik Boom
2018-11-27 14:11 ` Jaap Boender
2018-11-27 2:33 ` Francois Berenger
2018-11-27 13:31 ` Oliver Bandel
2018-11-27 13:40 ` John F Carr
2018-11-30 16:31 ` Louis Gesbert
2018-12-01 5:01 ` Louis Roché
2018-12-03 0:16 ` Edwin Török
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