From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B835C7F0A3 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:34:37 +0200 (CEST) IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:w3eW+B2OE2XpVS07smDT+DRfVm0co7zxezQtwd8ZsegSL/ad9pjvdHbS+e9qxAeQG96LsLQb0qGP6vyocFdDyKjCmUhKSIZLWR4BhJdetC0bK+nBN3fGKuX3ZTcxBsVIWQwt1Xi6NU9IBJS2PAWK8TWM5DIfUi/yKRBybrysXNWC1ILojqvrosGbSj4LrQT+SIs6FA+xowTVu5teqqpZAYF19CH0pGBVcf9d32JiKAHbtR/94sCt4MwrqHwI6Lpyv/JHBK7zeqB9Sb1DEBwnNXo07Yvlr0rtVwyKs1wYU3sbiFJiCg7J4RWyCpD1szX3rMJz2TOBIYv3S/U+VC6m7qEtRBK+23RPDCIw7GyC0p84t6lcuh/0/xE= Authentication-Results: mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; spf=None smtp.pra=oliver@first.in-berlin.de; spf=None smtp.mailfrom=oliver@first.in-berlin.de; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@einhorn.in-berlin.de Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of oliver@first.in-berlin.de) identity=pra; client-ip=192.109.42.8; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="oliver@first.in-berlin.de"; x-sender="oliver@first.in-berlin.de"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of oliver@first.in-berlin.de) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=192.109.42.8; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="oliver@first.in-berlin.de"; x-sender="oliver@first.in-berlin.de"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@einhorn.in-berlin.de) identity=helo; client-ip=192.109.42.8; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="oliver@first.in-berlin.de"; x-sender="postmaster@einhorn.in-berlin.de"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0D7BQDZj+RVfwgqbcBdhFgGgx27BgGEQYM4AoEqPQ8BAQEBAQEBARABAQsLCgghLoIdggcBAQMBIw8BBUYLCxoCGA4CAlcZiCYIBLIZlFYBAQgBAQEBAR2BIopIhRIXglIvgRQFlUGMcQdLiCaQO4E6hCdvgk0BAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0D7BQDZj+RVfwgqbcBdhFgGgx27BgGEQYM4AoEqPQ8BAQEBAQEBARABAQsLCgghLoIdggcBAQMBIw8BBUYLCxoCGA4CAlcZiCYIBLIZlFYBAQgBAQEBAR2BIopIhRIXglIvgRQFlUGMcQdLiCaQO4E6hCdvgk0BAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,442,1437429600"; d="scan'208";a="175491452" Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 31 Aug 2015 19:34:22 +0200 X-Envelope-From: oliver@first.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (yak.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.109]) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t7VHYMHw005823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:34:22 +0200 Received: from x55b2038c.dyn.telefonica.de (x55b2038c.dyn.telefonica.de [85.178.3.140]) by webmail.in-berlin.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:34:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:34:22 +0200 Message-ID: <20150831193422.Horde.x0Huwfo1mZ7zY5SuudtgA1C@webmail.in-berlin.de> From: Oliver Bandel To: caml-list@inria.fr References: <1C02B1E2-D17D-4008-998E-B17048C62DFA@gmail.com> <55E47B7E.6050901@glondu.net> In-Reply-To: <55E47B7E.6050901@glondu.net> User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Caml-list] We need a rich standard library distributed with OCaml, really Zitat von Stéphane Glondu (Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:06:22 +0200) > Le 27/08/2015 10:17, Gabriel Scherer a écrit : >> Depending on external libraries used to be a problem when there was no >> consensus on OCaml packaging (no longer than a few years ago people >> where reluctant to even use ocamlfind). We now have a reasonable >> consensus on a packaging story, and installing third-party libraries >> has never been as easy as it is today -- except on Windows, meh. >> I think you should embrace the idea of depending on software outside >> the OCaml distribution. > > Depending on a multitude of external libraries makes packaging more > difficult. I am talking about "system" packaging (deb, rpm...) here, not > OPAM. And "install OPAM first" is not a very satisfactory way of > installing some software written in OCaml in a stable environment. [...] I imagine some tools here: opam2deb opam2rpm opam2pkgbuild deb2opam rpm2opam pkgbuild2opam Ciao, Oliver