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From: Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org>
To: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
Cc: Amogh Margoor <Amogh.Margoor@mathworks.in>,
	"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml crash in windows due to running out of memory
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:55:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131125135527.GA23794@notk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131125130111.GC3610@frosties>

Hi,

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 09:56:11PM +0100, Adrien Nader wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013, Amogh Margoor wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > The Ocaml version I am facing problem with is 3.12.1.
> > > Regards,
> > > Amogh
> > > 
> > > From: Amogh Margoor
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:19 PM
> > > To: 'caml-list@inria.fr'
> > > Subject: Ocaml crash in windows due to running out of memory
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > We have memory intensive application coded in Ocaml, which crashes on Windows 7 when it runs out of memory instead of throwing an exception.
> > > Is that a known issue ?
> > 
> > What is the exception and how much memory is your application using at
> > that moment?
> 
> Many kernels only allocate address space on malloc() and assign pages
> only on use. They also support over commit of memory. Meaning
> applications can allocate more memory than the system has under the
> assumption that they won't actually use it all (or that maybe some
> memory will be freed before the apps actually use the memory).
> 
> Due to that in many kernels malloc() basically never fails but when
> you use the memory and the kernel can't find any page to assign to it
> you get a segfault and your program crashes. You only get the
> exception if the malloc() fails.
> 
> Now I'm not sure how windows actualy handles this but it sounds like
> it allows over commit.

As far as I know, it doesn't do overcommit. Also, I doubt that would
change anything: if you exhaust your address space, you cannot receive a
pointer to some place since it would collide with some of your already
assigned space.
On 32b, allocations have to fail once you reach 2GB of memory (or 3GB
depending on some settings). That said, such a scenario should probably
trigger an exception but so far this is just an hypothesis which cannot
be confirmed until we roughly know the memory usage.

-- 
Adrien Nader

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-25 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-20 10:52 Amogh Margoor
2013-11-20 20:56 ` Adrien Nader
2013-11-25 13:01   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2013-11-25 13:55     ` Adrien Nader [this message]
2013-11-26  6:53       ` Florian Hars
2013-11-26  9:14         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2013-11-26  9:24         ` Adrien Nader
2013-11-26  9:02       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2013-11-26  9:22         ` Adrien Nader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-11-20 10:48 Amogh Margoor

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