[Caml-list] Re: OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options

[Gour <gour@atmarama.net>]

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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:17:37 +0200
Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:

> I hadn't, thanks for the link. I skipped the video and went a bit
> quickly through the lwn article (hopefully, lwn articles are
> well-written and you only need to read a few words of a paragraph to
> kwow whether you want to skip it or not).

Let's see...

> It's fairly reassuring that they plan to make something stable after
> that. I hope for everyone that this holds. By the time they reach the
> end of GTK3, they should notice that it's necessary; again, I hope.

Maybe they will achieve something stable after GTK3, but nobody knows
when it will happen and it seems that GNOME will remain the only
customer at that time.

> I've had troubles engaging with the GTK+ community. Maybe I should
> have tried the mailing-lists instead of only IRC but they are active
> on IRC and I'd expect to get at least some reaction but I had lots of
> troubles getting any. If I'm trying to work for free, don't make me
> work more in order to do the work.

Have you seen this one: "Finally, he said, people ask whether GTK+ is
focused on creating "small apps" or "large applications," and his answer
is "small apps." In other words, GTK+ widgets are designed to make it
easy and fast to write small apps for GNOME: apps like Clocks, rather
than GIMP or Inkscape."

Frankly speaking I'm not interested to use GUI toolkit which is designed
for writing "apps like Clocks". No wonder that more & more projects
(even DEs like LXDE) are moving towards Qt.

Sure, Qt is not perfect, but the state of GTK is sad.

> Well, no.
> I'm going to mostly repeat what I wrote on IRC (I was at work; I leave
> my laptop along with my SSH keys and passwords at home).
> 
> I think you can easily understand that not many people would drop a
> project they're working on (even infrequently) and switch to some kind
> of "competitor".

Here I am trying to just be practical...for only short period of time I
was running KDE desktop (~0.9.x) and the rest of the time GTK-ones (now
I use only i3). Moreover, my preferred apps were also GTK-based, but
when I see direction where it goes, it is wise to be prepare for the
future. (/me was die-hard OS2 user, but jumped onto Linux train inn
'99)

> But apart from that, I dislike Qt.

OK -- fair-enough.

> I'm much more interested in bindings to the EFLs[1]. It's C and the
> direct result is that you already have bindings even though fairly
> little time has been spent on them. It's much smaller, it's fast, the
> API is fairly small and, at least for the EFLs 1.7, the typing used on
> the C side is so inexistant that I'm sure it will be easy to provide
> an awesome high-level layer bindings on top of it.

I wish you all success. EFL is surely better option than GTK.

> Oh and the community is welcoming, with many French people, i.e. that
> you can actually threaten with a baseball bat. :) 

:-)

What about Tk which seems to not look bad in 8.6.x ?


Sincerely,
Gour

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