Re: [Caml-list] Re: OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options

[Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org>]

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Gour wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:17:37 +0200
> Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:
> 
> > I hadn't, thanks for the link. I skipped the video and went a bit
> > quickly through the lwn article (hopefully, lwn articles are
> > well-written and you only need to read a few words of a paragraph to
> > kwow whether you want to skip it or not).
> 
> Let's see...
> 
> > It's fairly reassuring that they plan to make something stable after
> > that. I hope for everyone that this holds. By the time they reach the
> > end of GTK3, they should notice that it's necessary; again, I hope.
> 
> Maybe they will achieve something stable after GTK3, but nobody knows
> when it will happen and it seems that GNOME will remain the only
> customer at that time.
> 

While I hope this happens, I'm not holding my breath.

> > I've had troubles engaging with the GTK+ community. Maybe I should
> > have tried the mailing-lists instead of only IRC but they are active
> > on IRC and I'd expect to get at least some reaction but I had lots of
> > troubles getting any. If I'm trying to work for free, don't make me
> > work more in order to do the work.
> 
> Have you seen this one: "Finally, he said, people ask whether GTK+ is
> focused on creating "small apps" or "large applications," and his answer
> is "small apps." In other words, GTK+ widgets are designed to make it
> easy and fast to write small apps for GNOME: apps like Clocks, rather
> than GIMP or Inkscape."
> 
> Frankly speaking I'm not interested to use GUI toolkit which is designed
> for writing "apps like Clocks". No wonder that more & more projects
> (even DEs like LXDE) are moving towards Qt.

That's something I disagree with, or at least don't understand.

All I ask from a GUI library is a set of widget. If that is properly
provided, I don't see which influence the library has on the scale of
the application you can do.

> Sure, Qt is not perfect, but the state of GTK is sad.

Pretty much agreed.

> > Oh and the community is welcoming, with many French people, i.e. that
> > you can actually threaten with a baseball bat. :) 
> 
> :-)
> 
> What about Tk which seems to not look bad in 8.6.x ?

It's one tooolkit I haven't tried. Part of the reason was the lack of a
working WebKit binding (to tk, not to ocaml) last time I started a
project.

That said, gitk does a few weird things from time to time but I'm not
sure if it's by design or if it's because of tk.

-- 
Adrien Nader