From: Erik de Castro Lopo <mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Problems to get larger user base ... (Re: [Caml-list] OCaml's variables)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 14:20:08 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130528142008.580d16815937634b8b4e4d93@mega-nerd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A353BE.5030009@freenet.de>
Mr. Herr wrote:
>
> Am 27.05.2013 10:53, schrieb Erik de Castro Lopo:
> > Mr. Herr wrote:
> >> I think the biggest problem is you generally can only learn FP and/or Ocaml at
> >> university, because:
> >>
> >> The FP terminology is at first (and a long time after starting learning it), without
> >> a teacher, not understandable.
> > Sorry, that's simply not true.
> >
> > I studied my last univeristy course in 1992. I picked up Ocaml in 2004
> > and Haskell in 2008. Before Ocaml, the only functional language I had
> > used was scheme in the late 1980s.
> >
>
> Scheme is terribly functional, so to say, and is absolutely immerged in the Lispy slang.
> All your knowlegde in C, Java, PHP, Assembler, Tcl/Tk, Pascal ... will not help you
> there.
>
> I started as an IBM /370 Systems Admin in the late nineties, and it took me months of
> reading in 2012
> to get some understanding about what the heck the scheme people are talking about.
>
> Scheme is even a better example for the problems non university learners encounter,
> than Ocaml, IMO.
>
> Your point of view is rather supporting mine.
No it isn't.
I studied 6 months of Scheme in my first year of university in the late
1980s and never touched it again. *All* the Scheme I might have learned
in the late 1980s had been forgotten by the time I picked up Ocaml in
2004.
Erik
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2013-05-23 23:53 [Caml-list] OCaml's variables oliver
2013-05-24 9:01 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2013-05-24 23:30 ` oliver
2013-05-24 23:53 ` Siraaj Khandkar
2013-05-25 0:40 ` oliver
2013-05-25 5:14 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-05-25 11:04 ` oliver
2013-05-25 11:49 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-05-25 12:04 ` oliver
2013-05-25 12:30 ` David Allsopp
2013-05-25 22:42 ` oliver
2013-05-25 23:24 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-05-25 22:57 ` oliver
2013-05-25 16:53 ` Kristopher Micinski
2013-05-25 22:44 ` oliver
2013-05-26 15:00 ` oliver
2013-05-26 18:38 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-26 21:49 ` Problems to get larger user base ... (Re: [Caml-list] OCaml's variables) Oliver Bandel
2013-05-27 7:40 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-27 8:37 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-05-27 20:21 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-27 20:36 ` Török Edwin
2013-05-27 21:10 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-28 1:15 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-28 18:32 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-28 18:39 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-28 18:50 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-05-28 19:24 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-28 22:00 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-05-28 22:17 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-28 22:43 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-05-29 20:48 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-29 21:11 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-29 22:02 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-29 22:10 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-30 0:51 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 0:45 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 0:57 ` Chet Murthy
2013-05-30 1:09 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 4:52 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-30 5:04 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 5:05 ` Chet Murthy
2013-05-30 5:11 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 6:02 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-30 6:36 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 6:47 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-30 22:41 ` Chet Murthy
2013-05-31 5:27 ` Malcolm Matalka
2013-05-31 13:32 ` Mike Lin
2013-06-03 1:15 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-30 13:49 ` oliver
[not found] ` <20130530.091844.2217058886454447597.Christophe.Troestler@umons.ac.be>
2013-05-30 7:23 ` [Caml-list] Re: Problems to get larger user base Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-05-30 7:51 ` OPAM binary packages (was Re: Problems to get larger user base ... (Re: [Caml-list] OCaml's variables)) Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-05-27 8:53 ` Problems to get larger user base ... (Re: [Caml-list] OCaml's variables) Erik de Castro Lopo
2013-05-27 12:38 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-27 12:56 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-05-27 20:35 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-27 20:57 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-05-28 1:17 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-28 2:44 ` oliver
2013-05-28 3:40 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-28 4:05 ` Norman Hardy
2013-05-28 12:51 ` oliver
2013-05-28 4:08 ` Norman Hardy
2013-05-28 12:36 ` oliver
2013-05-29 6:12 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-05-29 7:31 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-05-29 2:39 ` Jeff Meister
2013-05-29 2:51 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-29 2:57 ` Jeff Meister
2013-05-29 7:50 ` Török Edwin
2013-05-29 3:06 ` oliver
2013-05-28 18:51 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-28 19:06 ` Anthony Tavener
2013-05-28 19:47 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-29 2:25 ` Francois Berenger
2013-05-28 4:20 ` Erik de Castro Lopo [this message]
2013-05-28 18:59 ` Mr. Herr
2013-05-29 3:08 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
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