From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A6EC7EE51 for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:45 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of rixed@happyleptic.org) identity=pra; client-ip=212.27.42.4; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="rixed@happyleptic.org"; x-sender="rixed@happyleptic.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of rixed@happyleptic.org) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=212.27.42.4; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="rixed@happyleptic.org"; x-sender="rixed@happyleptic.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@smtp4-g21.free.fr) identity=helo; client-ip=212.27.42.4; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="rixed@happyleptic.org"; x-sender="postmaster@smtp4-g21.free.fr"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuABAFODn1HUGyoElGdsb2JhbABZxVQEBAGBBRYOAQEBAQcNCQkUAyWCJAEFOj8QCyETEg8FKCGIJLpMjx0HgnNhA5c6lFI X-IPAS-Result: AuABAFODn1HUGyoElGdsb2JhbABZxVQEBAGBBRYOAQEBAQcNCQkUAyWCJAEFOj8QCyETEg8FKCGIJLpMjx0HgnNhA5c6lFI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,736,1363129200"; d="scan'208";a="15601460" Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 24 May 2013 17:15:44 +0200 Received: from ombreroze.happyleptic.org (unknown [82.229.213.209]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50DF4C81BB; Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rixed by ombreroze.happyleptic.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UftiU-0003Un-75; Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:38 +0200 From: rixed@happyleptic.org To: oliver Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <20130524151538.GA9915@ombreroze.happyleptic.org> References: <519F1CF6.7050007@riken.jp> <20130524123551.GA7605@ombreroze.happyleptic.org> <20130524144335.GF2007@siouxsie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130524144335.GF2007@siouxsie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] French study on security and functional languages I agree, and indeed the project I'm currently mostly involved with closely match your description. I was not blaming specifications per se but the idea that programming goal is to implement a pre-existing, fixed, unquestionable set of specifications that stand like revealed truth. How these specifications are formulated, how easy it is to fix and maintain them, is as important as the implementation language IMO.