From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: Jan Kybic <kybic@fel.cvut.cz>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] HLVM numerical performance
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:37:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200903091137.53084.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ab7v3w3q.fsf_-_@fel.cvut.cz>
On Monday 09 March 2009 09:04:57 Jan Kybic wrote:
> > The OCaml Forge has kindly accepted to host the HLVM project:
> >
> > http://hlvm.forge.ocamlcore.org
>
> Hello. Just out of curiosity:
>
> I recall reading that one of your priorities for HLVM is performance of
> numerical code.
HLVM aspires to provide the following benefits over OCaml:
. High performance numerics (often 2-4x faster than OCaml on x86).
. High performance polymorphism: polymorphic definitions are instantiated for
different types.
. More numeric types (float32, complexes, low-dimensional vectors and
matrices).
. More optimizations for the benefit of numerical computing: common
subexpression elimination, hoisting of loop invariants, inlining of function
arguments to higher-order functions.
. Faster and easier FFI for external libraries like FFTW and LAPACK.
. Dynamic capabilities such as generic printing, hashing, comparison,
serialization and run-time type information.
. Community led development: you can contribute to the open source HLVM code
base.
. Commerce friendly design so it will be viable for you to buy and sell
libraries written for HLVM.
. A common language run-time so you can safely consume and produce libraries
written in any languages with implementations that target HLVM.
> Does it mean that you expect numerical code to run faster than natively
> compiled (with ocamlopt) Ocaml?
Absolutely. Most numerical code already runs a lot faster in HLVM than it does
in ocamlopt if you disable GC in any inner loops that act upon arrays. In the
future, I expect HLVM to be a lot faster still because it will generate SSE
instructions (using LLVM's vector intrinsics) and perform many optimizations
of its own (such as hoisting the GC code automatically).
> Do you have any experiments so far to support this?
Yes. The "test.ml" file from the HLVM subversion repository contains over 500
lines of test code that includes a few simple benchmarks. Here is a
comparison of the performance of ordinary OCaml with the best performance I
have been able to obtain using HLVM:
Float Fibonacci (recursive floating point functions)
OCaml: 6.10s
HLVM: 1.74s 3.5x faster than ocamlopt
Mandelbrot (complex arithmetic)
OCaml: 4.39s
HLVM: 1.89s 2.3x faster than ocamlopt
Sieve of Eratosthenes (int arrays)
OCaml: 14.9s (had to use big arrays)
HLVM: 7.05s 2.1x faster than ocamlopt
As you can see HLVM is already generating much faster code than ocamlopt. Note
that the OCaml code can be improved (e.g. by avoiding OCaml's complex number
type) but the point is that idiomatic code is much faster with HLVM.
> I am doing large scale numerical calculations in Ocaml and performance
> is always an issue for me.
A lot of people have adopted OCaml for number crunching and string munging
(bioinformatics). Although ocamlopt is an excellent compiler, HLVM has shown
that it is possible to do much better still. I hope HLVM will form the
backbone of an OCaml variant designed specifically for technical computing.
--
Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-09 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-08 1:19 HLVM is now garbage collected! Jon Harrop
2009-03-08 2:45 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-03-08 9:35 ` Richard Jones
2009-03-09 4:13 ` Jon Harrop
2009-03-09 9:04 ` HLVM numerical performance Jan Kybic
2009-03-09 11:37 ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2009-03-09 11:53 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-03-09 12:55 ` [Caml-list] HLVM is now garbage collected! Richard Jones
2009-03-08 9:43 ` Joel Reymont
2009-03-08 10:21 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-03-08 10:54 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2009-03-09 4:11 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2009-03-13 13:49 ` Jon Harrop
2009-03-13 20:40 ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2009-03-20 2:20 ` Jon Harrop
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