From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] More Caml
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:59:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812230959.24662.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812230607.37399.jon@ffconsultancy.com>
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 06:07:37 Jon Harrop wrote:
> Yes. I'll do a bit more work on it and then tidy it up and document it
> before uploading it, unless there is any great interest from people now.
Incidentally, I would like to know what performance issues (good and bad)
people have with the current OCaml implementation?
AFAICT, OCaml evolved from a family of languages that were only optimized for
symbolic processing. Some of OCaml's relatives, like PolyML, were able to
provide even faster symbolic processing than naive C but their numerical
performance is 100x worse. These heavily-skewed performance characteristics
rendered many ML implementations domain specific.
I believe OCaml was the first ML to put an unusual amount of effort into
optimizing other aspects, most notably high performance floating-point
arithmetic and float arrays (where OCaml still thrashes SML/NJ and MLton).
Moreover, I think OCaml became the world's favourite ML precisely because of
this diversity.
I am just looking at the simplest possible GC implementations, like shadow
stack, and trying to envisage an ML implementation that puts a lot more
effort into numerics and string processing and a lot less effort into
symbolics. I am guessing the performance of allocation will be degraded
10-100x but many allocations can be removed. This leaves me wondering how
much slowdown is acceptable without deterring a lot of users?
Anyway, I'll try to implement a simple GC and get some concrete performance
results first...
--
Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-23 9:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-19 13:04 More cores Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2008-12-19 14:04 ` [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2008-12-19 15:06 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2008-12-19 15:54 ` The Axis of Eval (was: More cores) Dario Teixeira
2008-12-19 16:26 ` [Caml-list] " Paolo Donadeo
2008-12-19 17:01 ` Dario Teixeira
2008-12-19 18:01 ` Christophe Raffalli
2008-12-19 18:50 ` [Caml-list] More cores Ulf Wiger (TN/EAB)
2008-12-19 19:10 ` Richard Jones
2008-12-19 22:31 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-19 22:36 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2008-12-19 22:53 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-22 17:00 ` [Caml-list] More Caml Jon Harrop
2008-12-22 21:44 ` Richard Jones
2008-12-23 6:07 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-23 9:59 ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2008-12-23 15:32 ` Ashish Agarwal
2008-12-23 17:33 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-24 13:12 ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2008-12-24 16:47 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-23 10:04 ` Richard Jones
2008-12-23 10:38 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-23 9:43 ` Oliver Bandel
2008-12-23 11:53 ` Jon Harrop
2008-12-19 22:42 ` [Caml-list] More cores Richard Jones
2008-12-20 19:33 ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2008-12-20 19:41 ` Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2008-12-19 20:37 ` Oliver Bandel
2008-12-19 21:27 ` Richard Jones
2008-12-19 22:03 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2008-12-19 22:47 ` Richard Jones
2008-12-19 23:00 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2008-12-19 23:56 ` prelude.ml as another standard extension to Pervasives? Alexy Khrabrov
2008-12-20 1:40 ` [Caml-list] " Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
2008-12-20 4:50 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2008-12-20 10:53 ` Zheng Li
2008-12-20 12:37 ` [Caml-list] More cores Richard Jones
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