From: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
To: David Teller <David.Teller@univ-orleans.fr>
Cc: OCaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Wanted: your feedback on the hierarchy of OCaml Batteries Included
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:22:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081118122248.GG27367@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1227007048.6170.35.camel@Blefuscu>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:17:28PM +0100, David Teller wrote:
> This raises two questions:
> 1) how important is it to allow third-party modules to extend the
> namespace?
> 2) how important is it to offer a uniform package structure (where
> levels are always separated by '.' rather than some level by '.' and
> some by '_')?
>
> For the moment, we have considered point 1 not very important and point
> 2 a little more. There are several reasons to disregard point 1. Among
> these, clarity of origin (as in "is this module endorsed by Batteries or
> not?") and documentation issues (as in "gosh, this module pretends to be
> part of [Data] but I can't find the documentation anywhere in the
> documentation of Batteries, wtf?").
>
> Do you believe that we should have chosen otherwise?
Easy - look at CPAN[1]. If you want to scale a project you have to
make decisions that allow a distributed network of people to
cooperate, without needing too much central coordination. CPAN is a
great example of this loose coupling because packages make their own
decision about naming (albeit they can become "official" later - but
they won't need to rename unless there is an actual naming conflict).
If the problem is documentation or provenance of packages, then add a
mechanism to solve that problem. Perl also solves this through an
existing, lightweight, distributed mechanism (a standard location to
install man-pages, and a standard man-page format and man-page
generating mechanism -- POD).
Rich.
[1] http://www.cpan.org/
--
Richard Jones
Red Hat
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-18 9:56 David Teller
2008-11-18 10:06 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2008-11-18 10:21 ` Zheng Li
2008-11-18 11:22 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 12:52 ` Zheng Li
2008-11-18 14:10 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
2008-11-18 14:19 ` David Teller
2008-11-19 3:06 ` Yaron Minsky
2008-11-19 3:47 ` Till Varoquaux
2008-11-19 10:57 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-19 18:05 ` Stéphane Glondu
2008-11-20 0:14 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-18 10:29 ` [Caml-list] " Erkki Seppala
2008-11-18 11:34 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-18 11:47 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2008-11-18 12:15 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 12:32 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-18 12:56 ` David Teller
2008-11-19 13:38 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-19 17:37 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-23 10:32 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
[not found] ` <9b415f950811180428x2de94a64q6fa92887f8e00705@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-18 12:51 ` David Teller
2008-12-19 11:00 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2009-01-05 10:40 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 13:24 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-18 14:46 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 12:40 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 13:31 ` Dario Teixeira
2008-11-18 14:23 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 14:40 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-19 13:36 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-19 14:28 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-19 14:45 ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-11-21 12:37 ` Michaël Le Barbier
2008-11-18 11:17 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 12:22 ` Richard Jones [this message]
2008-11-18 12:49 ` David Teller
2008-11-18 15:20 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-18 18:17 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-18 17:51 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-11-18 22:43 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-18 18:59 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-18 20:17 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-18 19:22 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-18 19:50 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-18 21:50 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-19 13:48 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-19 19:02 ` Stéphane Glondu
2008-11-18 22:07 ` Alain Frisch
2008-11-18 23:49 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-18 23:13 ` Alain Frisch
2008-11-19 13:28 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-18 23:30 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-19 6:29 ` David Teller
2008-11-19 8:36 ` Jon Harrop
2008-11-19 9:46 ` Paolo Donadeo
2008-11-19 20:11 ` Maxence Guesdon
2008-11-20 9:28 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-11-20 10:33 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-20 10:49 ` open Module (not?) considered harmful Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-20 11:29 ` [Caml-list] " David Allsopp
2008-11-20 11:48 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-20 17:56 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-20 13:01 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-11-20 13:41 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-11-20 16:44 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-21 2:56 ` Stability of exceptions Eliot Handelman
2008-11-21 7:39 ` [Caml-list] " Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-21 9:52 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2008-11-20 14:46 ` [Caml-list] open Module (not?) considered harmful Ashish Agarwal
2008-11-20 17:54 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-20 11:31 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-23 10:36 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-20 11:41 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-23 10:38 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-23 11:01 ` Richard Jones
2008-11-20 12:58 ` [Caml-list] Wanted: your feedback on the hierarchy of OCaml Batteries Included Nicolas Pouillard
2008-11-20 21:12 ` David Teller
2008-11-20 23:18 ` Daniel Bünzli
2008-11-21 9:34 ` David Teller
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