From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7920DBB84 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:12:12 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar4DAEEEpEjAXQIniGdsb2JhbACRfwEBAQ8gpD4DgVI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,210,1217800800"; d="scan'208";a="15997883" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2008 19:12:08 +0200 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7EHC2Vv023250 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:12:07 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwBAJj9o0jLOwFrk2dsb2JhbACRfwEBAQEJAwgJEQSkDwOBUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,210,1217800800"; d="scan'208";a="15997337" Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.107]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2008 18:44:19 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMz9o0jLzuai/2dsb2JhbAC2QQOBUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,210,1217779200"; d="scan'208";a="354452000" Received: from unknown (HELO hendrix.mega-nerd.net) ([203.206.230.162]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 15 Aug 2008 00:44:16 +0800 Received: from hendrix (hendrix [192.168.200.99]) by hendrix.mega-nerd.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8776DACAD5 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:44:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:44:39 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Haskell vs OCaml Message-Id: <20080815024439.a3a6ed02.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> In-Reply-To: <200808141317.43992.jon@ffconsultancy.com> References: <776282.7991.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200808141317.43992.jon@ffconsultancy.com> Reply-To: caml-list@inria.fr Organization: Erik Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 48A46762.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 haskell:01 ocaml:01 haskell:01 wiki:01 decreased:98 wrote:01 experimental:01 caml-list:01 ghc:01 ghc:01 fftw:02 fftw:02 patches:03 erik:04 Jon Harrop wrote: > 184,574: FFTW (14,298 lines of OCaml) For FFTW, Ocaml is used the generate C code. Nothing that the final user of libfftw links to is written in Ocaml. I don't think this one really counts. > Some of the Haskell projects (e.g. pugs and srcinst) have even *decreased* > in popularity over the past 7 months. Indeed, Darcs was only being used to a > significant extent by the Haskell community and the GHC developers are now > giving up on it themselves citing awful performance as one of the main > reasons: > > http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DarcsEvaluation Darcs with its theory of patches is also far more experimental and is pushing back the boundaries of how people who write revision control software think about the field. Erik -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Incompetence, like misery, seeks company." -- Erik Naggum