From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2DCBC6C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:27:39 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAHutokeWy9CN/2dsb2JhbACRd5wg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,290,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="8610844" Received: from riemann.rsise.anu.edu.au ([150.203.208.141]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 01 Feb 2008 14:27:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.rsise.anu.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B03B6BA47 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:27:28 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at rsise.anu.edu.au Received: from riemann.rsise.anu.edu.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (backend2.rsise.anu.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NSyTk0bd+WqM for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:27:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from pulp.rsise.anu.edu.au (pulp.rsise.anu.edu.au [150.203.208.49]) by riemann.rsise.anu.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:27:23 +1100 (EST) Received: by pulp.rsise.anu.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1560) id 30E0DA0C4F5; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:27:23 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 00:27:23 +1100 From: Pietro Abate To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ocamlcore.org: Discussions place, and requirements Message-ID: <20080201132722.GA3130@pulp.rsise.anu.edu.au> References: <200802011336.09562.toots@rastageeks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802011336.09562.toots@rastageeks.org> X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux X-Organization: Research School of Information Science and Engineering (Australian National University) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam: no; 0.00; 0100,:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 dependencies:01 ocamlfind:01 'make:01 install':01 strive:98 snap:98 wrote:01 maintainer:01 caml-list:01 modules:02 philosophy:02 module:03 On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 01:36:09PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Second questions is ocaml modules that we are going to distribute there. > While we have discussed that different way we could use to collect projects > from different places, I don't think we discussed the minimal support that > the module should provide when it comes to installing and registering the > module. I think that for the moment it's useless to strive to convert every and each ocaml developer to use the same build system. As I suggested before, what we should do is only to agree to an interface and then let the various distribution to deal with build dependencies. In your example, if a library don't use ocamlfind, this is ok. The only important thing is to honor the build interface. As a developer (and as a software maintainer) I imagine a world where if I want to use library x.y I've only to take care to give it the right tools to build, but with the assurance that if I call 'make install', the library will end up in the right place. Ocamlcore.org would contain all these libraries so fetching a new version from the net and re-compiling it would be a snap. One day we could hope for a convergence in the building tool department as well, but I think is far too early to call for this kind of standardization. For example it would be great if all developers would integrate the debian patches to their build systems... pietro -- ++ ++ "All great truths begin as blasphemies." -George Bernard Shaw ++ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html