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From: Romain Beauxis <toots@rastageeks.org>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The OCaml Community (aka back from the Developer Days)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:52:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801281452.26192.toots@rastageeks.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1201439362.6302.15.camel@Blefuscu>

Le Sunday 27 January 2008 14:09:22 David Teller, vous avez écrit :
>     Dear list,

	Hi !

>  During yesterday's OCaml Developer Day, a few important points have
> been discussed. First and foremost, due to extremely limited manpower,
> Inria does not intend to expand on the current OCaml distribution, nor
> even to be in charge of an end-user distribution. Rather, Inria would
> concentrate on the core language, in a distribution possibly smaller
> than the current tarball, while the community should be in charge of
> things such as
> * a standard library distribution (e.g. ExtLib + Camomile + LablGtk
> + ... )
> * binaries & installers
> * testing
> * code repositories (à la CPAN)
> * deciding standard practices (e.g. Unicode)
> * expanding the platform (e.g. development environments, DSLs)
> * maintaining FAQs and tutorials
> * evangelism...
>
>  How and when all this should happen needs to be discussed. One tool for
> these discussions is the current mailing-list. Another tool is the Cocan
> Wiki ( http://www.cocan.org ).
>
>  One important thing: every task needs manpower. So please consider
> volunteering.

Sorry I couldn't attempt to the meeting, so perhaps my point has already been 
discussed..

While I agree it's generally a good idea to rely on the community for 
improvements, I think there's a wide difference between the lack of manpower 
and a community driven organisation.

In particular, if the work are to be joined together, there shall be at some 
point a concrete collaboration between INRIA and the communauty.

It does not mean hiring people, but letting contributors participate in the 
core code too. 
Because, if we say extensions are to be maintained by a community and then we 
need to wait and be confirmed by INRIA for each change that interacts with 
the core, then it might be a loss of energy for both groups, including 
frustration...

Another question is who will provide machines and means to acheive it.
In particular, a repository à la CPAN for modules would be a great thing, but 
it would have to be supported by some structure...

Not that I suspect any problem for now, but I think this has to be stated 
clearly somewhere.


Romain



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-27 13:09 David Teller
2008-01-28  0:38 ` [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2008-01-28 11:27   ` David Teller
2008-01-28 13:42     ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 16:38       ` [Caml-list] " Andrej Bauer
2008-01-29  0:26         ` Markus Mottl
2008-01-29 13:45           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-29 20:07             ` Markus Mottl
2008-01-30 13:04             ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-30 13:26               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 14:17                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-30 15:14                   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-30 16:26                     ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-30 17:41                   ` [Caml-list] Re: The OCaml Community (aka back fromthe " David Allsopp
2008-01-30 21:32                     ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-30 13:10             ` [Caml-list] Re: The OCaml Community (aka back from the " Vincent Hanquez
2008-01-30  9:22           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 17:25     ` [Caml-list] " Peng Zang
2008-01-28 13:35   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 15:25     ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 15:43       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 19:49         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 20:16           ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2008-01-28 20:35             ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-28 20:48               ` Hezekiah M. Carty
     [not found]             ` <6f9f8f4a0801281235s136f53b4qae8ec2c928f931c@mail.gmail.com>
2008-01-28 20:46               ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2008-01-28 21:29             ` Alterlib? (was "Re: The OCaml Community") Dario Teixeira
2008-01-28 21:48               ` [Caml-list] " blue storm
2008-01-28 13:52 ` Romain Beauxis [this message]
2008-01-28 14:42   ` The OCaml Community (aka back from the Developer Days) Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 15:39     ` [Caml-list] " Romain Beauxis
2008-01-28 15:49       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-01-28 15:56         ` [Caml-list] " Romain Beauxis
2008-01-29 15:23     ` Stefano Zacchiroli

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