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From: Kuba Ober <ober.14@osu.edu>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Hash clash in polymorphic variants
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:44:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801141044.05670.ober.14@osu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001401c856c3$6c692260$6c7ba8c0@countertenor>

On Monday 14 January 2008, David Allsopp wrote:
> Kuba Ober wrote:
> > On Monday 14 January 2008, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > > What I meant was simply that instead of using some fixed hash
> > > > function, one could use a perfect hashing function which is optimal
> > > > for its known set of inputs, and won't ever generate a collision.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the set of inputs is not know at compile time, only
> > > at link time.
> >
> > As I've said in the cited post, the perfect hash generator would have to
> > be invoked at link time, which shouldn't be a big deal.
>
> Assuming you're talking hypothetically and designing a new runtime then,
> yes, it's not a big deal.
>
> However, this scheme could not just be dropped into the present system - it
> would not work with dynamic linking because once you've hashed a
> polymorphic variant tag-name you drop the name so you can't re-hash when
> you update your perfect hashing function...

A trivial solution to that is to keep both, as obviously each time an 
equivalent of dlopen() is made, everything has to be rehashed. gperf 
is "slightly" memory-hungry, so surely it'd need to be something using a 
different algorithm. I'm talking hypothetically, but I also think it's a 
weird design decision to use those possibly-colliding hashes. String 
sorting/comparison isn't exactly a CPU killer, so couldn't the original names 
have been used instead? I admit not to knowing too many details of the 
current implementation of course ;(

Cheers, Kuba


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 17:09 Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 20:35 ` [Caml-list] " Eric Cooper
2008-01-10 21:24   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 21:40     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-11 13:30       ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 13:48         ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-11 16:14           ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 18:40             ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 12:20               ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 14:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-14 14:56                   ` [Caml-list] " Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 15:37                     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:44                       ` Kuba Ober [this message]
2008-01-14 16:03                         ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-15  3:36                     ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15  4:59                       ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15  9:01                         ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15 18:17                           ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15 19:20                             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-15 22:04                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 13:48                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16 15:02                                   ` Dario Teixeira
2008-01-16 19:00                                     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-17 13:09                                     ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:33                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:19                               ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:39                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16  3:26                             ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2008-01-16  3:34                               ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-16  3:42                                 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16  4:40                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 16:03                                 ` Eric Cooper
2008-01-16 10:50                             ` Richard Jones
2008-01-14 17:14                   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-14 17:36                     ` Alain Frisch
2008-01-11  0:15 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue

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