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From: Kuba Ober <ober.14@osu.edu>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Hash clash in polymorphic variants
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:20:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801140720.02094.ober.14@osu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c85481$7f727120$6c7ba8c0@countertenor>

On Friday 11 January 2008, David Allsopp wrote:
> Kuba Ober wrote:
> > On Friday 11 January 2008, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 January 2008 13:30:29 Kuba Ober wrote:
> > > > Are those collisions of any real importance? I mean, do they break
> > > > anything? If all they do is imply linearly searching a list of a few
> > > > elements, for the colliding entry, then it's a non-issue?
> > >
> > > It would prevent code from compiling so it would be a complete
> > > show-stopper.
> >
> > So what you're saying is that the implementation uses the hash with
> > bucket
> >
> > size of 1? That's kinda poor decision, methinks.
>
> I think you're missing the context - there's no hash table. See 18.3.6 in
> the manual - the hashed values (and resulting collisions) are to do with
> the internal representation of polymorphic variants.
>
> The compiler cannot process code that uses two polymorphic variants whose
> tag names will have the same internal representation (and therefore be
> incorrectly viewed as having the same value). The test is probably
> performed somewhere in the type checker...

Yeah, I sort of put the wagon ahead of the horse. Of course the hashing 
function doesn't imply a hash table.

What I meant was simply that instead of using some fixed hash function, one 
could use a perfect hashing function which is optimal for its known set of 
inputs, and won't ever generate a collision.

The tables that such a function uses to hash its input have to be generated at 
link-time, which means run-time too.

Cheers, Kuba


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 17:09 Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 20:35 ` [Caml-list] " Eric Cooper
2008-01-10 21:24   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 21:40     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-11 13:30       ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 13:48         ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-11 16:14           ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 18:40             ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 12:20               ` Kuba Ober [this message]
2008-01-14 14:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-14 14:56                   ` [Caml-list] " Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 15:37                     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:44                       ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 16:03                         ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-15  3:36                     ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15  4:59                       ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15  9:01                         ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15 18:17                           ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15 19:20                             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-15 22:04                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 13:48                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16 15:02                                   ` Dario Teixeira
2008-01-16 19:00                                     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-17 13:09                                     ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:33                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:19                               ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:39                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16  3:26                             ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2008-01-16  3:34                               ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-16  3:42                                 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16  4:40                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 16:03                                 ` Eric Cooper
2008-01-16 10:50                             ` Richard Jones
2008-01-14 17:14                   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-14 17:36                     ` Alain Frisch
2008-01-11  0:15 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue

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