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From: Eric Cooper <ecc@cmu.edu>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Hash clash in polymorphic variants
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:35:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080110203534.GB12491@stratocaster.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801101709.14110.jon@ffconsultancy.com>

On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 05:09:13PM +0000, Jon Harrop wrote:
> ISTR advice that constructors sharing the first few characters should be 
> avoided in order to reduce the likelihood of clashing hash values for 
> polymorphic variants. Is that right?

I don't think it's worth worrying about.

I wrote a program a while ago to look into this.  I never saw any
"human-sensible" collisions (between two identifiers that a person
might have chosen). And if you're producing gensyms in a program, you
can just check ahead of time.

To find a collision with a given identifier, consider each bignum N
that differs by a multiple of 2^31 from the identifier's hash value.
Compute the radix-223 representation of N.  If that forms a legal
OCaml identifier, then you've found a collision.

For example, Eric_Cooper collides with azdwbie, c7diagq, hlChrkt,
NSaServ, and SaupDOF, to pick just a few.

-- 
Eric (call me SaupDOF) Cooper             e c c @ c m u . e d u


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-10 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 17:09 Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 20:35 ` Eric Cooper [this message]
2008-01-10 21:24   ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-01-10 21:40     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-11 13:30       ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 13:48         ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-11 16:14           ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-11 18:40             ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 12:20               ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 14:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-14 14:56                   ` [Caml-list] " Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 15:37                     ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:44                       ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-14 16:03                         ` David Allsopp
2008-01-14 15:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-15  3:36                     ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15  4:59                       ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15  9:01                         ` Jacques Garrigue
2008-01-15 18:17                           ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-15 19:20                             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-01-15 22:04                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 13:48                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16 15:02                                   ` Dario Teixeira
2008-01-16 19:00                                     ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-17 13:09                                     ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:33                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:19                               ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-18  5:39                                 ` Kuba Ober
2008-01-16  3:26                             ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2008-01-16  3:34                               ` Yaron Minsky
2008-01-16  3:42                                 ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16  4:40                               ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-16 16:03                                 ` Eric Cooper
2008-01-16 10:50                             ` Richard Jones
2008-01-14 17:14                   ` Jon Harrop
2008-01-14 17:36                     ` Alain Frisch
2008-01-11  0:15 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue

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