From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1635BC69 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:19:06 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAshREfUnw7Vlmdsb2JhbACCOYx6AQEBAQcEBhERBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,448,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="19548441" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2007 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lALKJ38X031323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:19:06 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAshREfUnw7Vlmdsb2JhbACCOYx6AQEBAQcEBhERBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,448,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="19548439" Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2007 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from [80.229.56.224] (helo=beast.local) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Iuw2L-0007ke-8w for caml-list@inria.fr; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:19:05 +0000 From: Jon Harrop Organization: Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. To: Inria Ocaml Mailing List Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Camlp5 release 5.03 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:10:13 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20071120095222.GA12460@yquem.inria.fr> <200711211801.08746.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <20071121191006.GA31390@furbychan.cocan.org> In-Reply-To: <20071121191006.GA31390@furbychan.cocan.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711212010.13529.jon@ffconsultancy.com> X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 474492B7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; camlp:01 ocaml:01 ocaml-:01 ocamlc:01 ocamlopt:01 ocamldoc:01 camlp:01 labltk:01 ocamllibdir:01 ocaml:01 findlib:01 makefile:01 distros:01 stdlib:01 5.03:98 On Wednesday 21 November 2007 19:10, Richard Jones wrote: > I guess it depends what you mean by "forking", but it's standard > practice, in all areas not just OCaml, for a single source package > (eg. ocaml-3.10.0.tar.gz) to generate many different binary packages > (eg. ocamlc, ocamlopt, ocamldoc, camlp4, labltk, etc.) Ok. > This means that you can install just the bits you need, and > furthermore that another package only needs to depend upon the parts > it actually uses -- this saves disk space & network bandwidth! Right. > The camlp5 package installs in $OCAMLLIBDIR/camlp5 so it doesn't > conflict with camlp4 from the base OCaml package, with an appropriate > findlib META file. You need to make some adjustments to your Makefile > but those are usually very minor compared to rejigging your source to > be compatible with the new camlp4. For me, this begs the obvious question: can the distros split off the OCaml stdlib into a separate package so the community can improve it and Debian/Ubuntu/Red Hat/Mac OS X/.. users can benefit from an improved version? -- Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/?e