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From: Fernando Alegre <fernando@gatech.edu>
To: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin Jambon <martin.jambon@ens-lyon.org>,
	caml-list <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>,
	Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Compiler feature - useful or not?
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:10:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071116181024.GA15777@gato.physics.und.nodak.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473DD956.7090608@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:54:30AM -0600, Edgar Friendly wrote:
> > 
> Explicit casts, my friend.  Explicit casts to convert from int to

Yes. I think explicit casts should be extended to some of these cases.

> permission and back.  And automatically generated runtime checks to
> ensure that you don't try to convert ( 37 :> permission ).  1 remains an

No, no. Run-time checks are evil :-) I mean, OCaml is supposed to be
a static type-safe system, so that programs that typecheck are guaranteed to
run (maybe forever...) and never segfault. While exceptions are needed
for I/O, no core expression should raise an exception.

I think explicit casts of compile-time constants is safe (sound?), and explicit
casts of a general (int :> finite type) are unsafe. I don't know whether there
is a middle ground that can be both safe and useful. I guess some of
the researchers on this list must know the answer (or know there is no
answer, or whatever...)

Thanks,
Fernando


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13 23:41 Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14  0:08 ` [Caml-list] " Yaron Minsky
2007-11-14  0:21   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14  7:58     ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 12:37       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 13:56         ` Virgile Prevosto
2007-11-14 14:35         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 16:38           ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 18:43             ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 19:19               ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  6:29               ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-15 13:26                 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-15 17:29                   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 20:28                     ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16  0:47                       ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-15 22:37                     ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-15 22:24                   ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-16  0:30                   ` Yaron Minsky
2007-11-16  1:51                     ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16  9:23                       ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-16 14:17                         ` rossberg
2007-11-16 15:08                         ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:43                           ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:46                             ` Till Varoquaux
2007-11-16 17:27                             ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 17:47                               ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 17:54                                 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 18:10                                   ` Fernando Alegre [this message]
2007-11-16 19:18                                     ` David Allsopp
2007-11-16 19:32                                       ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:50                                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-16 17:31                             ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 17:43                               ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16  0:46                   ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-16  8:23                     ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  8:58                       ` Jean-Christophe Filliâtre
2007-11-16  9:13                         ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16  9:48                           ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-14 16:57       ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 21:04         ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 22:09           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15  0:17         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-11-15  6:23           ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 10:53             ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-11-15 13:48               ` Jacques Carette
2007-11-15 14:43                 ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-15 16:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14 16:09   ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 16:20     ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-14 11:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-14 10:57   ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-14 14:37 ` Zheng Li

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