* I'm looking for an OCaml book
@ 2007-09-23 17:49 Fabrice Marchant
2007-09-23 21:38 ` Reference on the OCaml VM Mathias Kende
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From: Fabrice Marchant @ 2007-09-23 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello !
It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english :
I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French residents.
I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
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Parce que, importation des States -> frais et taxes.
Savez-vous où je pourrais acheter le bouquin - même d'occasion -, s'il vous plaît ?
(Pas l'emprunter à la B.U..)
J'ai contacté de grandes librairies techniques sans succès. Je me débrouille peut-être mal mais cela fait un moment que je suis sur le coup ...
Merci d'avance.
Fabrice
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OCaml : le langage fait par des français qui parlent anglais.
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* Reference on the OCaml VM
2007-09-23 17:49 I'm looking for an OCaml book Fabrice Marchant
@ 2007-09-23 21:38 ` Mathias Kende
2007-09-24 9:29 ` [Caml-list] " forum
2007-09-24 7:36 ` [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book Dominique Martinet
2007-09-24 22:21 ` Jon Harrop
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From: Mathias Kende @ 2007-09-23 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Hello
I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other than
the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml website.
My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
runtime systems.
Thank you.
Mathias
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* Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book
2007-09-23 17:49 I'm looking for an OCaml book Fabrice Marchant
2007-09-23 21:38 ` Reference on the OCaml VM Mathias Kende
@ 2007-09-24 7:36 ` Dominique Martinet
2007-09-25 8:30 ` Fabrice Marchant
2007-09-24 22:21 ` Jon Harrop
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From: Dominique Martinet @ 2007-09-24 7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On 23/09/2007, Fabrice Marchant <fabricemarchant@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello !
>
> It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english :
> I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French residents.
> I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Parce que, importation des States -> frais et taxes.
>
> Savez-vous où je pourrais acheter le bouquin - même d'occasion -, s'il vous plaît ?
> (Pas l'emprunter à la B.U..)
>
> J'ai contacté de grandes librairies techniques sans succès. Je me débrouille peut-être mal mais cela fait un moment que je suis sur le coup ...
>
> Merci d'avance.
>
> Fabrice
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> OCaml : le langage fait par des français qui parlent anglais.
>
> _______________________________________________
A quick google search (looking for '"Ocaml for scientists" france')
yeilded a single result of the editor's site -
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/ -, saying
that you can get it at "Le Monde en Tique" (
http://www.lmet.fr/fiche.cgi?_ISBN=9780FLYING002&_WORDS=objective%20caml
)
I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
"only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
better :)
(Sorry for not answering in French, but as you've written, ocaml's a
French-speaking-English thing ;) )
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* Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM
2007-09-23 21:38 ` Reference on the OCaml VM Mathias Kende
@ 2007-09-24 9:29 ` forum
2007-09-24 12:22 ` Gordon Henriksen
2007-09-25 15:28 ` Mathias Kende
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From: forum @ 2007-09-24 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Le 23 sept. 07 à 23:38, Mathias Kende a écrit :
> Hello
>
> I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other
> than
> the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml
> website.
> My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
> runtime systems.
While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this
information.
I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/
downloads.html :
- caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and the
bytecode file format;
- caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the
OCaml VM.
Hope this helps,
Xavier
PS: I would be happy to hear about every mistake you find in these
documents
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* Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM
2007-09-24 9:29 ` [Caml-list] " forum
@ 2007-09-24 12:22 ` Gordon Henriksen
2007-09-25 15:28 ` Mathias Kende
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From: Gordon Henriksen @ 2007-09-24 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: forum; +Cc: caml-list
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On 2007-09-24, at 05:29, forum@x9c.fr wrote:
> Le 23 sept. 07 à 23:38, Mathias Kende a écrit :
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I would like to know if there are references on the OCaml VM other
>> than
>> the source code of bytecomp/byterun, I found none on the OCaml
>> website.
>> My aim would be to write a small compiler that would target the OCaml
>> runtime systems.
>
> While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this
> information.
> I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/
> downloads.html :
> - caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and
> the bytecode file format;
> - caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the
> OCaml VM.
Xavier,
Nicely done.
— Gordon
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* Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book
2007-09-23 17:49 I'm looking for an OCaml book Fabrice Marchant
2007-09-23 21:38 ` Reference on the OCaml VM Mathias Kende
2007-09-24 7:36 ` [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book Dominique Martinet
@ 2007-09-24 22:21 ` Jon Harrop
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From: Jon Harrop @ 2007-09-24 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Sunday 23 September 2007 18:49:33 Fabrice Marchant wrote:
> Hello !
>
> It is quite stupid to write this question with my naughty english:
You probably mean "imperfect English". The phrase "naughty English" makes it
sound like you've only mastered the phrase "sucky sucky ten dollar". ;-)
> I live in France and this question is only directed at Belgian and French
> residents. I'm looking for Jon's book : "OCaml for scientists" ( That's
> free pub indeed ! ) in France or in Belgium.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------------------------ Parce que, importation des States -> frais et
> taxes.
To the best of my knowledge, my book is only resold in France by Le Monde en
Tique, as Dominique mentioned. However, you mention taxes and, although I do
not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any taxes are
incurred because we are both within the EU.
As an aside, OCaml for Scientists is still our best-selling product and we
shipped £1,000 worth of OCaml for Scientists a single week last month
following this wonderful blog post:
http://www.uncarved.com
Sounds like an OCaml in Finance book is sorely needed! :-)
Let me know if you need any more specific OCaml resources and I'll do my best
to create them.
--
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
OCaml for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e
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* Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book
2007-09-24 7:36 ` [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book Dominique Martinet
@ 2007-09-25 8:30 ` Fabrice Marchant
2007-09-26 3:39 ` Orlin Grigorov
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From: Fabrice Marchant @ 2007-09-25 8:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Thanks a lot Dominique and Jon !
"Dominique wrote:"
> I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
> "only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
> better :)
A bug in my brain : for months I was sure to have read $85 instead of 85 pound sterling !
"Jon wrote:"
> However, you mention taxes and, although I do
> not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any
> taxes are incurred because we are both within the EU.
I believed it was 85 $ and then, seeing a higher french price and trying to explain the difference, I imagined huge taxes or exportation shipping cost.
> I would like to offer you a discounted copy of OCaml for Scientists at only £60.
> If you accept, I only ask that you write positive things about my book
> (assuming you like it!).
I cheerfully accept and promise, but in french, if you agree.
(I think to write a page explaining why I fall for Caml and forget C++. Can add another one about the lot of interesting things I'll discover in your book.)
Will contact you in private mail for this preferential order !
Regards,
Fabrice
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* Re: [Caml-list] Reference on the OCaml VM
2007-09-24 9:29 ` [Caml-list] " forum
2007-09-24 12:22 ` Gordon Henriksen
@ 2007-09-25 15:28 ` Mathias Kende
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From: Mathias Kende @ 2007-09-25 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: OCaml List
Le lundi 24 septembre 2007 à 11:29 +0200, forum@x9c.fr a écrit :
> While developping OCaml-Java, I had to reverse-engineer this
> information.
> I produced two pdf files available at http://cadmium.x9c.fr/
> downloads.html :
> - caml-formats.pdf describes both the marshalled data format and the
> bytecode file format;
> - caml-instructions.pdf describes all the instructions used by the
> OCaml VM.
Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. Someone also gave a
link to this page in an answer not forwarded to the list (I send it here
for references):
http://cristal.inria.fr/~lebotlan/docaml_html/french/ or
http://cristal.inria.fr/~lebotlan/docaml_html/english/
Mathias
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* Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book
2007-09-25 8:30 ` Fabrice Marchant
@ 2007-09-26 3:39 ` Orlin Grigorov
2007-09-26 4:40 ` Jon Harrop
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From: Orlin Grigorov @ 2007-09-26 3:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hey, guys,
Any idea how I can get hold of "OCaml for Scientists" in Canada?
Thanks,
Orlin
On 9/25/07, Fabrice Marchant <fabrice.marchant@orange.fr> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Dominique and Jon !
>
> "Dominique wrote:"
> > I don't think it's a better deal though, it costs 180€ there, and it's
> > "only" £85 (122€) on the flying frogs' site, so some taxes might be
> > better :)
>
> A bug in my brain : for months I was sure to have read $85 instead of 85
> pound sterling !
>
> "Jon wrote:"
> > However, you mention taxes and, although I do
> > not understand exactly what you have written, I do not believe any
> > taxes are incurred because we are both within the EU.
>
> I believed it was 85 $ and then, seeing a higher french price and trying
> to explain the difference, I imagined huge taxes or exportation shipping
> cost.
>
> > I would like to offer you a discounted copy of OCaml for Scientists at
> only £60.
> > If you accept, I only ask that you write positive things about my book
> > (assuming you like it!).
>
> I cheerfully accept and promise, but in french, if you agree.
> (I think to write a page explaining why I fall for Caml and forget C++.
> Can add another one about the lot of interesting things I'll discover in
> your book.)
>
> Will contact you in private mail for this preferential order !
>
> Regards,
>
> Fabrice
>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: [Caml-list] I'm looking for an OCaml book
2007-09-26 3:39 ` Orlin Grigorov
@ 2007-09-26 4:40 ` Jon Harrop
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From: Jon Harrop @ 2007-09-26 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 04:39:15 Orlin Grigorov wrote:
> Hey, guys,
>
> Any idea how I can get hold of "OCaml for Scientists" in Canada?
We deliver direct to customers all over the world. Just order from this page:
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e
Incidentally, if anyone in Antartica wants a copy then I'll give you one for
free just so that I can claim to have copies in all continents. ;-)
--
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
OCaml for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/?e
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