From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: "Nicolas Pouillard" <nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Custom operators in the revised syntax
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:09:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705121109.23192.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd67f63a0705120249mad04b01qa8fb626d0cb399ff@mail.gmail.com>
On Saturday 12 May 2007 10:49, you wrote:
> What your system should do when encountering:
>
> let double x = x + x;;
F# ossifies global definitions to defaults (if any) or type errors. In this
case:
val double : int -> int
If the definition had been:
let first a = a.[0];;
then there is no default and it would ask for clarification as to the type
of "a" (is it an array, hash table, vector etc.).
> double 1;;
Fine.
> double 1.1;;
> double (Vector.from_array [| 1.1; 2.2; 3.3 |]);;
Both static type errors.
This seems to work very well by minimizing confusion, maximizing performance
(everything is resolved statically) and letting me write mathematical
expressions concisely.
If the definition of "double" is nested then its type is not ossified
immediately but will unify to "int" at the application "double 1;;", so the
next two calls are static type errors just as they are in OCaml.
There are other problems, like do we generalize from:
val ( * ) : 'a -> 'a -> 'a
to:
val ( * ) : 'a -> 'b -> 'c
e.g. "scalar * vector -> vector"?
You also have ambiguity with conventional syntax. Does "vector * vector" mean
dot, cross or element-wise product?
Lessons can be learned from languages like Matlab, where people often
accidentally add a scalar to each element of a vector (so we know that would
be a useful type error).
Potentially, you could even overload "f x" to allow it to mean multiplication
when "f" is a numeric and not a functional value. So the type could go
through ['a -> 'b | int | float | ...].
I've written about 100k LOC of F# code now and I haven't had a single
non-trivial type problem caused by overloading. So I'd definitely question
the conventional view that overloading and inference do not sit well
together. Worst case, the compiler asks for a type annotation...
--
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
The F#.NET Journal
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/fsharp_journal/?e
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-12 10:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-10 20:55 Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-10 21:35 ` [Caml-list] " Loup Vaillant
2007-05-10 22:25 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-11 6:52 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-05-11 13:14 ` dmitry grebeniuk
2007-05-11 14:15 ` Loup Vaillant
2007-05-11 14:37 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-11 14:46 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-12 2:48 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-12 4:40 ` skaller
2007-05-12 4:47 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-12 5:45 ` skaller
2007-05-12 5:59 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-12 6:43 ` skaller
2007-05-12 10:22 ` Richard Jones
2007-05-13 15:42 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2007-05-13 16:04 ` ls-ocaml-developer-2006
2007-05-13 20:08 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-12 9:49 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-12 10:09 ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-05-11 14:52 ` Loup Vaillant
2007-05-11 18:32 ` skaller
2007-05-12 4:48 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-11 18:23 ` skaller
2007-05-11 14:40 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-11 18:22 ` skaller
2007-05-11 14:36 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-11 14:47 ` brogoff
2007-05-11 14:51 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-11 18:25 ` brogoff
2007-05-11 20:37 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-12 22:54 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-13 0:27 ` ketti
2007-05-13 1:05 ` Christian Stork
2007-05-13 10:50 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-05-13 5:52 ` brogoff
2007-05-13 7:36 ` skaller
2007-05-13 13:12 ` Jacques Carette
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