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From: Francois Pottier <Francois.Pottier@inria.fr>
To: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] menhir
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:38:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070502053815.GA726@yquem.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1178062950.8967.39.camel@rosella.wigram>


Hello,

> That is, instead of treating the token set precisely as the
> set of user tokens + eof, menhir is treating eof specially
> and not consistently with other tokens.

As far as Menhir is concerned, there is no special eof token.
The set of tokens is exactly the set of user-defined tokens.
This is true also of ocamlyacc.

Internally, the construction of the automaton uses a pseudo-token,
written #, which stands for the end of the token stream. This token
can appear in conflict explanation messages.

> I'm not sure i fully understand the 'do we need lookahead'
> issue: I would have thought: you need a fetch if your action is 
> shift, and not if it is a reduce.

What you mean is, you need to *consume* one token if your action
is shift, and none if your action is reduce. However, in order to
make a decision (in order to choose between shift and reduce, and
between multiple reduce actions), you sometimes need to *consult*
one lookahead token, without consuming it.

This is necessary only *sometimes*, because, in some states, only
one reduce action is possible, and can be taken without consulting
a lookahead token.

An end-of-stream conflict arises when a state has multiple
actions, some of which are on real tokens, and some of which are
on the pseudo-token #. In that case, one would like to consult
the next token in order to make a decision; however, there is a
possibility that we are at the end of the sentence that we are
trying to recognize, so asking the lexer for one more token might
be a mistake (in your terminology, it might be an overshoot).

Does this clarify things?

-- 
François Pottier
Francois.Pottier@inria.fr
http://cristal.inria.fr/~fpottier/


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-02  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-28 10:32 menhir skaller
2007-04-28 16:50 ` [Caml-list] menhir Francois Pottier
2007-04-28 19:47   ` Markus Mottl
2007-04-28 21:15     ` Jon Harrop
2007-04-29  4:43   ` skaller
2007-04-29  7:27     ` Christophe Raffalli
2007-05-01 15:57     ` Francois Pottier
2007-05-01 17:11       ` skaller
2007-05-01 17:34         ` Francois Pottier
2007-05-01 23:42           ` skaller
2007-05-02  5:38             ` Francois Pottier [this message]
2007-05-02  5:50               ` Francois Pottier
2007-05-02  8:41               ` skaller
2007-05-02 12:30                 ` Francois Pottier
2007-05-02 16:29                   ` skaller
2007-05-02 18:35                     ` Francois Pottier
2007-05-03  1:30                       ` skaller
2007-05-03  8:43                         ` Joel Reymont
2007-05-01 17:15       ` skaller
2007-05-01 17:31         ` Francois Pottier

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