From: tab@snarc.org (Vincent Hanquez)
To: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Edgar Friendly <thelema314@gmail.com>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:41:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070117114104.GA28532@snarc.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1169004527.8941.77.camel@rosella.wigram>
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 02:28:47PM +1100, skaller wrote:
> That is a reasonable argument to examine: but I'm not sure
> finally is actually all that useful. If you're thinking of:
>
> try maybe_throw X; do something
> finally -> cleanup done
>
> then it can be coded in Ocaml like:
>
> begin try maybe_throw X; do something; cleanup
> with x -> cleanup; throw x end
It would be more convincing if you hadn't made the trivial mistake to
put the first cleanup function in the try.
if for a really weird reason cleanup raises an exception, cleanup is done twice.
the correct OCaml code is:
let r = try maybe_throw X; do something; with exn -> cleanup; raise exn in
cleanup;
r
the point is not it's hard to do, it's annoything to duplicate here and
there, and doing the inline code lose the higher level view we can have
with a syntaxic sugar like try-finally.
> try
> before
> open f
> middle
> close f
> after
> with _ -> close f
>
> then you have all sorts of problems if a different exception
> is thrown in the before or after parts. Using type information
> to distinguish the kind of exception is clearly a hack:
> what if you're opening two files?
The thing is you don't do this with a flat block. If you need to unwind
a complex state you do:
before
try
let fd = open fd
try
middle
finally
close fd
finally
after
> Yes, but you can do what many people do: map the exceptions into
> variants like:
>
> let hfind x y =
> try Some(Hashtbl.find x y)
> with Not_found -> None
I'm not arguing against this method. You do it the way you want,
but when you use exception, having a finally is very handy for a lots of
case. Nothing more, nothing less.
> let fopen f lock = try Some (open f) with Error -> None in
> let lck = mutex () in lock mutex;
> let f = fopen name lck in
> match f with
> | Some file -> ... close, release lck
> | None -> release lck
>
> WOOPS! Again we had to repeat the cleanup code.
> Releasing the mutex AFTER the whole code works, but
> if we want separate control flows for the two cases
> we have to test the variant again:
>
> begin match f with .. end; release lck;
> match f with .. (* fork again *)
>
> So actually, you could use a 'finally' here too:
seems that you *finally* understand it ;)
--
Vincent Hanquez
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-17 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-13 5:37 Edgar Friendly
2007-01-13 5:56 ` [Caml-list] " Tom
2007-01-14 17:35 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 17:59 ` ketty
2007-01-14 18:21 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:29 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-13 7:41 ` David Baelde
2007-01-13 9:31 ` ketty
2007-01-14 17:33 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:23 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-14 18:41 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-14 20:49 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-14 23:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2007-01-15 0:55 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-15 6:12 ` skaller
2007-01-15 0:05 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 5:59 ` skaller
2007-01-15 20:23 ` Martin Jambon
2007-01-15 21:30 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-15 22:13 ` Try finally (was Re: [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features) Daniel Bünzli
2007-01-15 22:27 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 22:40 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-01-15 23:08 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 22:17 ` [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 1:18 ` skaller
2007-01-16 2:11 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16 5:18 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 6:36 ` skaller
2007-01-16 6:33 ` skaller
2007-01-16 13:55 ` Brian Hurt
2007-01-16 9:00 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 14:14 ` skaller
2007-01-16 15:00 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 17:47 ` skaller
2007-01-16 19:24 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-17 3:28 ` skaller
2007-01-17 11:41 ` Vincent Hanquez [this message]
2007-01-17 12:53 ` Olivier Andrieu
2007-01-17 13:18 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-17 14:09 ` skaller
2007-01-16 19:42 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16 21:15 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-17 3:46 ` skaller
2007-01-17 11:50 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-15 5:56 ` skaller
2007-01-15 9:35 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2007-01-15 18:28 ` Martin Jambon
2007-01-15 19:02 ` ls-ocaml-developer-2006
2007-01-14 19:01 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-14 18:51 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-14 20:49 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-15 0:19 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-20 19:19 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-20 21:40 ` skaller
2007-01-14 21:47 ` Tom
2007-01-15 10:36 ` Richard Jones
2007-01-15 14:24 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-16 8:45 ` Hendrik Tews
2007-01-16 9:08 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-01-21 17:07 ` [Caml-list] native-code stack backtraces (was: Ocaml compiler features) Xavier Leroy
2007-01-21 18:53 ` Pierre Etchemaïté
2007-01-16 5:21 ` [Caml-list] Ocaml compiler features Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 5:33 ` ketty
2007-01-16 6:00 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 6:10 ` ketty
2007-01-16 5:55 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-16 17:51 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 19:09 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-16 19:21 ` Brian Hurt
2007-01-16 20:06 ` Jonathan Roewen
2007-01-16 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-16 6:51 ` skaller
2007-01-16 18:01 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-17 2:23 ` skaller
2007-01-16 8:00 ` Florian Hars
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