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From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:26:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408250926.28629.jgoerzen@complete.org> (raw)

Hello,

I come to OCaml from a Python background, and one of the most 
interesting bits of technology for Python is Jython[1].  Jython is a 
pure Java implementation of the Python interpreter and native-code 
libraries.  It allows Python programs to run unmodified in a Java 
environment.  More powerfully, though, Python programs can use Java 
classes as if they were native classes.  No glue code is required for 
this; it Just Works.  To a somewhat more limited extent, Python classes 
can also be made available to Java classes.  This makes Python an 
interesting choice to add more dynamic capabilities to Java code, and 
it expands the set of available libraries to Python programs to include 
anything available for Java.  I've used these capabilities for several 
purposes -- one of the more recent is the zxJDBC module, which exposes 
a Python DB-API interface to any database that has a JDBC 
implementation.

One of my continuing complains about OCaml is the breadth of libraries 
available for it.  It is getting better thanks to the hard work of 
many, but IMHO, still lags behind Python, Perl, and Java.

So one of the things I've been thinking about lately is integrating 
OCaml with either Java or the .NET CLI in a manner similar to Jython.  
I've done some googling on the topic and it seems nobody is working on 
this yet.  I just wanted to check and see if that's true.

I see several possibilities with both of those paths:

 * An ocamlc/ocamlrun that execute under Java or .NET and compile/run 
normal OCaml bytecode

 * An ocamlopt-equivolent that would compile OCaml code directly to Java 
or .NET bytecode 

I have found a language called Nemerle[2] that seems to be very similar 
to OCaml, though with a different syntax.

[1] http://www.jython.org/
[2] http://nemerle.org/

Thanks!

-- John

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             reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-25 14:26 John Goerzen [this message]
2004-08-25 14:38 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 14:50   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:02     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  9:05       ` Raphael Montelatici
2004-08-26 13:20         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 13:30           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:55   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:06     ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:14       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-28  3:49     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:05 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:21   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:22   ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 15:52     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:26       ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:40         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:49       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-08-25 17:01         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 17:17         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 20:00       ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:23   ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:24     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-08-27 14:26     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-27 14:44       ` skaller
2004-08-27 14:59       ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:35   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 15:40 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 17:55   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 18:37     ` skaller
2004-08-27 18:49       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 20:39         ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:56           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 22:05             ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:15               ` John Goerzen
2004-08-31 11:10                 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-28  0:25             ` skaller
2004-08-28  9:35               ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28  9:50                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 10:41                   ` skaller
2004-08-28 11:37                     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-25 17:37 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-25 18:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 22:10 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-26  0:09   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  4:26     ` [Caml-list] bytecode and native code at once Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-26  9:55       ` skaller
2004-08-26 15:52         ` [Caml-list] " mikel
2004-08-26 17:09           ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 17:31             ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 18:04               ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 18:28                 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:15             ` skaller
2004-08-27  8:52           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-27 15:39             ` David Brown
2004-08-27 15:48               ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:42     ` [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml Michal Moskal
2004-08-27  9:38       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 13:09         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 13:44           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-27 13:58           ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 21:03             ` Benjamin Geer
2004-08-30 16:40             ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 19:49         ` Blair Zajac
2004-08-27 22:18           ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:38             ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-28 16:40               ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-28 17:03                 ` [Caml-list] (GC issues) " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-28 20:45                   ` [Caml-list] " Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-29  2:31                     ` skaller
2004-08-29  5:04                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-29 12:58                         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-29 15:06                           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-29 15:22                             ` Radu-Mihail Obada
2004-08-29 10:12                     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-30 12:23                       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-30 13:17                         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-26 16:04 ` [Caml-list] " =?unknown-8bit?Q?=A3ukasz?= Dobrek

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