From: William Lovas <wlovas@stwing.upenn.edu>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: lazyness in ocaml (was : [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:03:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040722170349.GA29172@force.stwing.upenn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040722182851.B18239@pauillac.inria.fr>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 06:28:51PM +0200, Pierre Weis wrote:
> > A more lightweight notation would be needed in order to do real lazy
> > programming in ocaml. At that time I wondered if specifiying the
> > lazyness when one defines the function and not when one uses it would
> > be a problem (I mean a technical problem, not an ideological one).
> > For example if one defines
> >
> > let f (lazy x) = ...
> >
> > then the application f (x + y) would implicitely mean f (lazy (x + y)).
>
> [...]
>
> This has to be precisely ruled out and the necessary proofs have to be
> made, but I think it could work (including for higher-order
> functional, map, fold, and so on). I mean, I don't see any trivial
> counter-example that would ruin this scheme. Wao! If this rule
> turned out to be usable, it would be a major improvement for lazy
> evaluation in our favorite language.
This is reminiscent of the notation in Wadler's paper, "How to add laziness
to a strict language, without even being odd"[1]. He even gives the
semantics as a translation into the delay/force ("odd") style already
supported in O'Caml, similar to this proposal. Perhaps it could even be
implemented in camlp4, without any need for type-based transformations.
William
[1] http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/papers/lazyinstrict/lazyinstrict.txt
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-30 16:32 [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Damien
2004-07-14 21:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 0:17 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 7:30 ` David MENTRE
2004-07-15 7:59 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-15 23:35 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-15 7:39 ` Damien
2004-07-15 12:19 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 12:42 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 13:45 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 14:57 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 6:47 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 7:13 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 7:23 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16 7:44 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 17:56 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 9:17 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 9:32 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 7:21 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16 17:44 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 10:43 ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-21 15:52 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-21 17:43 ` lazyness in ocaml (was : [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters) Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-22 16:28 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 17:03 ` William Lovas [this message]
2004-07-22 23:00 ` skaller
2004-07-23 3:32 ` William Lovas
2004-07-28 7:26 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28 8:06 ` skaller
2004-07-28 8:29 ` Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-28 9:13 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28 9:36 ` skaller
2004-07-28 9:38 ` skaller
2004-07-28 10:17 ` Jason Smith
2004-07-28 12:31 ` skaller
2004-07-21 20:41 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Jon Harrop
2004-07-22 15:39 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 22:16 ` [Caml-list] lazy evaluation: [Was: kprintf with user formatters] skaller
2004-07-22 22:42 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters skaller
2004-07-22 8:05 ` [Caml-list] wait instruction lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 8:40 ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-07-22 10:35 ` lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 10:33 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-07-16 6:17 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 17:14 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:00 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 6:02 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 8:42 ` Damien
2004-07-19 9:00 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 16:52 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 9:28 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 22:20 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 23:01 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 16:17 ` james woodyatt
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