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From: Pierre Weis <pierre.weis@inria.fr>
To: Jean-Christophe.Filliatre@lri.fr
Cc: pierre.weis@inria.fr, basile.starynkevitch@inria.fr, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:17:56 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407190917.LAA13543@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16631.32784.526557.747099@gargle.gargle.HOWL> from Jean-Christophe Filliatre at "Jul 16, 104 09:13:20 am"

[...]
> I  also  use  the same  kind  of  trick  in  practice, with  a  little
> refinement  to avoid  building the  closure. I  introduce higher-order
> functions such as
> 
>    val if_debug : ('a -> unit) -> 'a -> unit
> 
> which behaves  like application  when the debug  flag is on  (and does
> nothing otherwise). Then you can simply write
[...]

This does not solve the problem of evaluating the argument(s) of the logging
application. Consider the example I gave:

>  log 2 (fun () ->
>    eprintf "Argument 1 is hard to compute %d\n" (ackermann x x))

Your solution would lead to

 if_debug2 eprintf "Argument 1 is hard to compute %d\n" (ackermann x x)

which wastes is too much computing power when the debug turn out to be
off.

This is not purely rethorical: I already encountered this problem in
practice (the runtime with logging output turned to off was still so
slow that it was impossible to compute the result in a comfortable
time delay; I was obliged to turn the logging facility to the (fun ()
-> ...) style to continue the development).

The solution is the same as for the previous request (``not converting
the arguments to strings before discarding the result''): use a
devoted construct that would change the semantics for this common but
arguably very specific case.

Regards,

Pierre Weis

INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://pauillac.inria.fr/~weis/


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-19  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-30 16:32 Damien
2004-07-14 21:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15  0:17   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15  7:30     ` David MENTRE
2004-07-15  7:59       ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-15 23:35         ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-15  7:39     ` Damien
2004-07-15 12:19       ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 12:42         ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 13:45           ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 14:22             ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 14:57               ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16  6:47               ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  7:13                 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16  7:23                   ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16  7:44                     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 17:56                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19  9:17                   ` Pierre Weis [this message]
2004-07-19  9:32                     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16  7:21                 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16 17:44                 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:10                   ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 10:43                     ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-21 15:52                       ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-21 17:43                         ` lazyness in ocaml (was : [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters) Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-22 16:28                           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 17:03                             ` William Lovas
2004-07-22 23:00                             ` skaller
2004-07-23  3:32                               ` William Lovas
2004-07-28  7:26                               ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28  8:06                                 ` skaller
2004-07-28  8:29                                   ` Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-28  9:13                                   ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28  9:36                                     ` skaller
2004-07-28  9:38                                     ` skaller
2004-07-28 10:17                                 ` Jason Smith
2004-07-28 12:31                                   ` skaller
2004-07-21 20:41                         ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Jon Harrop
2004-07-22 15:39                           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 22:16                             ` [Caml-list] lazy evaluation: [Was: kprintf with user formatters] skaller
2004-07-22 22:42                             ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters skaller
2004-07-22  8:05                         ` [Caml-list] wait instruction lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22  8:40                           ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-07-22 10:35                             ` lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 10:33                           ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-07-16  6:17             ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 17:14               ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:00                 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  6:02       ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  8:42         ` Damien
2004-07-19  9:00           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 16:52         ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19  9:28           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 22:20     ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 23:01       ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 16:17     ` james woodyatt

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