From: Pierre Weis <pierre.weis@inria.fr>
To: markus@oefai.at (Markus Mottl)
Cc: basile.starynkevitch@inria.fr, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:17:57 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407160617.IAA00699@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040715134530.GC11971@fichte.ai.univie.ac.at> from Markus Mottl at "Jul 15, 104 03:45:30 pm"
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Basile Starynkevitch [local] wrote:
> > I don't understand what this zprintf function should be,
>
> It should parse the format string, and ignore format arguments following
> it.
>
> > but the above
> > log proposal behave strangely (and perhaps unsafely) :
> >
> > # log false "a=%d s=%S\n%!" 1 "xyz";;
> > - : unit = <unknown constructor>
>
> The reason for this is that it returns a function and not a unit value.
> Unless you parse the format string, there is no way you can know when
> to stop eating arguments to return a value.
That's the debugger view of the problem :)
The Caml compiler's view is simpler: you broke the type system, you
get wrong results!
> I don't think that this hack will be too dangerous. You might get an
> exception 'Invalid_argument "equal: functional value"' if you want to
> compare those fancy unit-values, which is about the worst thing you
> can achieve. But who would want to compare unit-values anyway?
I have no time to try and find a way to get a bus error with that one
but I would not be glad to use software based on such a ugly hack that
is not proved harmless in any case.
> > For what it's worth, long time ago, I ended writing a camlp4 extension
> > for a similar logging (or tracing purpose) see file README.trace and
> > pa_trace.ml of
> > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/poesia/PoesiaSoft/PoesiaMonIcap/
>
> The preprocessor is not good enough for me. I would like to change
> log levels at runtime, because the application is a server which should
> run permanently.
``the application is a server which should run permanently'' ? Wao!
May I suggest no to use Obj.magic too often for this kind of
application ? Especially when you ``don't think that this hack will
be too dangerous'': this hack could kill your server not too permanently!
Best regards,
Pierre Weis
INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://pauillac.inria.fr/~weis/
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-30 16:32 Damien
2004-07-14 21:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 0:17 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 7:30 ` David MENTRE
2004-07-15 7:59 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-15 23:35 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-15 7:39 ` Damien
2004-07-15 12:19 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 12:42 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 13:45 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 14:57 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 6:47 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 7:13 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 7:23 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16 7:44 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 17:56 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 9:17 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 9:32 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 7:21 ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16 17:44 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 10:43 ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-21 15:52 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-21 17:43 ` lazyness in ocaml (was : [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters) Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-22 16:28 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 17:03 ` William Lovas
2004-07-22 23:00 ` skaller
2004-07-23 3:32 ` William Lovas
2004-07-28 7:26 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28 8:06 ` skaller
2004-07-28 8:29 ` Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-28 9:13 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28 9:36 ` skaller
2004-07-28 9:38 ` skaller
2004-07-28 10:17 ` Jason Smith
2004-07-28 12:31 ` skaller
2004-07-21 20:41 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Jon Harrop
2004-07-22 15:39 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 22:16 ` [Caml-list] lazy evaluation: [Was: kprintf with user formatters] skaller
2004-07-22 22:42 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters skaller
2004-07-22 8:05 ` [Caml-list] wait instruction lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 8:40 ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-07-22 10:35 ` lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 10:33 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-07-16 6:17 ` Pierre Weis [this message]
2004-07-16 17:14 ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:00 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 6:02 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 8:42 ` Damien
2004-07-19 9:00 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 16:52 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 9:28 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 22:20 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 23:01 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 16:17 ` james woodyatt
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