From: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Teaching OCaml
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:52:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040518085224.GA15477@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69392398-A827-11D8-89DA-0003939A19AA@fas.harvard.edu>
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:27:02PM -0400, Michael Hamburg wrote:
> Hi.
>
> A few thoughts on the subject.
>
> Iif you want practical features of OCaml, you could try the classic
> "QuickSort in n lines" where n depends on how efficient you want to
> make it, but you can still achieve O(n log n) in something like 4
> lines. It takes 10 or so to be efficient, compared to at least 50 in
> C. Of course, Haskell has even nicer syntax for this, but it looks
> good in O'Caml too.
Sorry, but why is this a "practical" feature of OCaml?
Anyone who uses OCaml to sort things will use List.sort, unless they
have incredibly specialist sorting requirements, in which they
certainly won't be using a 4-line implementation of quicksort.
Frankly I don't care how List.sort is implemented, as long as it's (a)
reasonably fast, and (b) bug free. It may be implemented in C for all
I know/care.
OCaml is a practical language for many good reasons:
(a) Garbage collection, type safety and other features which mean that
many bugs appear at compile time, not when your program has been deployed
at a customer site.
(b) Ability to construct and pattern-match against data structures
almost effortlessly. Data-driven analysis programs like the sort of
stuff I write for work are a joy to code with these features.
(c) Speed - it's fast enough, and can be very fast when you need it to
be. I can chew through datasets of hundreds of thousands of rows from
an Apache logfile in much less than a second.
Rich.
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-17 11:28 Simão Melo de Sousa
2004-05-17 17:27 ` Michael Hamburg
2004-05-17 17:40 ` David Brown
2004-05-18 8:52 ` Richard Jones [this message]
2004-06-02 17:41 ` Holger Schulz
2004-05-17 21:12 ` Evan Martin
2004-06-02 12:43 ` Holger Schulz
2004-06-02 13:06 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-06-02 14:09 ` [Caml-list] Making plugins with ocaml Magnus Jonsson
[not found] <16574.54515.560699.848619@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2004-06-03 14:27 ` [Caml-list] Teaching OCaml Brian Hurt
2014-11-25 16:03 [Caml-list] teaching OCaml robert.muller2
2014-11-25 16:33 ` John Whitington
[not found] ` <CAKmYinnv1arGZGQ2s0O7K2u=hr=oieiDXzR8YU_habM4+bUdJA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <5474C87D.4030307@coherentgraphics.co.uk>
2014-11-25 18:21 ` John Whitington
2014-11-26 14:26 ` Drup
2014-11-26 16:34 ` Xavier Leroy
2014-11-25 19:40 ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-11-26 11:37 ` Kenichi Asai
2014-11-26 18:12 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-11-26 22:09 ` Marek Kubica
2014-11-26 12:16 ` Jonathan Kimmitt
2014-12-16 19:17 ` Jon Harrop
2014-11-25 16:43 Arthur Charguéraud
2014-11-25 17:27 ` Alain Frisch
2014-11-25 17:33 ` Arthur Charguéraud
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