From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id GAA03001; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:14:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02079 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:14:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from amber.crhc.uiuc.edu (amber.crhc.uiuc.edu [130.126.143.254]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3L4Edjq001293 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:14:39 +0200 Received: from innsmouth.crhc.uiuc.edu (innsmouth.crhc.uiuc.edu [130.126.141.158]) by amber.crhc.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3L4Ea2q016623 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:14:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jjcook@localhost) by innsmouth.crhc.uiuc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i3L4Eag18039 for caml-list@inria.fr; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:14:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:14:36 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Cook" To: caml-list Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: How can I lend developers to the Caml team? Message-ID: <20040421041436.GA10980@crhc.uiuc.edu> References: <86d018e7a078826f250c5b9203187a86@mixmaster.it> <1082492202.21205.532.camel@pelican.wigram> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1082492202.21205.532.camel@pelican.wigram> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.41 X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 2004:99 2004:99 prestige:99 runtime:01 debugger:01 inspecting:01 cameleon:01 3.07:01 3.06:01 compiler:01 compiler:01 nightmare:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 06:16:43AM +1000, skaller wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 21:46, George Orwell wrote: > > > Hey look, I think OCaml deserves a lot more prestige > > and usage than it has. These are just my own honest > > opinions. I am not trying to put people down. It's > > my sincere belief that more developers would help. > > We all agree, including Xavier. However, the area > most of us think requires more developers > is the library and support tools, not the core > compiler and runtime. > > The area of the compiler needing most work > industrially is package management, precisely > to *allow* greater community contribution to the > library. I would also add a graphical debugger to that list; inspecting values of complex recursive structures is a nightmare, not to meantion the annoyance of abstract types, given only seperate 'printer' functions can be used. Eipiere (folded into then back out of Cameleon) looked nice, but to my knowledge is not active, nor up to date with 3.07 (or 3.06?). -- Jeffrey J. Cook Graduate Student, Electrical Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign jjcook@uiuc.edu ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners