From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA15659; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:32:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15677 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:32:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mz2.forethought.net (mzpi4.forethought.net [216.241.36.13]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3E8XSjq027742 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:33:29 +0200 Received: from [216.241.35.41] (helo=swordfish) by mz2.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDfon-0004Tb-Hl for caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:32:25 -0600 Received: from matt by swordfish with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDfon-0006yL-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:32:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:32:24 -0600 From: Matt Gushee To: caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] BSD vs. GPL Message-ID: <20040414083224.GB20629@swordfish> Reply-To: Matt Gushee Mail-Followup-To: caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr References: <20040414061600.GA25717@tallman.kefka.frap.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; gushee:01 mgushee:01 havenrock:01 caml-list:01 gpl:01 2004:99 brandon:99 non-free:01 lgpl:01 non-free:01 mankind:99 listened:99 stallman:01 stallman:01 model:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 314 On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 12:38:08AM -0700, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: > > > All I hear is "gimme, gimme" when non-free software > > developers ask for MIT/BSD > > and LGPL licenses. I am a non-free software developer > > myself, so don't think I don't see from that perspective. > > Idealists think the programmer is supposed to contribute massive amounts > of time and money for the betterment of all mankind. I'm not sure which idealists you're referring to ... but assuming you mean the FSF itself and RMS, I have to ask: Have you actually listened to (or read) what Stallman says on the subject? Yes, he does believe that Free Software is good for all humankind. But I think the above statement grossly misrepresents the GNU ideology. Stallman has stated on numerous occasions that people should be able to make money by developing and selling software; what they should not be able to do is to accumulate wealth simply by controlling intellectual property. Now, it is of course debatable how well the GNU model works in practice. Certainly there are few examples of business success based on GPLed software. But it's still early in the game. We don't have to agree with Stallman's philosophy, but I think we must acknowledge his and the FSF's contributions to what we now know as open source. Without the trail blazed by the FSF there would very likely be no Linux, no Apache ... and no open source OCaml. -- Matt Gushee When a nation follows the Way, Englewood, Colorado, USA Horses bear manure through mgushee@havenrock.com its fields; http://www.havenrock.com/ When a nation ignores the Way, Horses bear soldiers through its streets. --Lao Tzu (Peter Merel, trans.) ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners